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    Which Light Gun is Compatible? Dashboard
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    Last Reply: January 13, 2004, 5:21 pm

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    Author Which Light Gun is Compatible?
    GMGQ

    Rank: Sony Fan


    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
    Posts: 6
    From: Vancouver, BC

      Posted: 2003-07-07 17:59

    I've got a Sony KP-65WV700 RPTV, and my GunCon doesn't work with it

    Does anyone know of a light gun that WILL work with this TV? Thanks in advance!


       


    Witchboard

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: Jan 09, 2003
    Posts: 73
    From: USA

      Posted: 2003-07-11 13:49

    I'm not sure if the light guns work with projection TVs. There is a new one out called a Scorpion 3 that is 100Hz compatible. I've also seen a GunCon faq that had a list of TV's they did and did not work with. Hitting google with the right key words may help. Good luck.


       
    JIMMYBO

    Rank: Sony Buff


    Joined: Aug 21, 2003
    Posts: 11
    From: Luxembourg/Scotland

      Posted: 2003-08-25 09:21

    Hi GMGQ, I think that Whichboard has hit on the problem, most RPTVs are 100Hz so this will prevent the vast majority of light guns working on them, but as suggested the new Scorpion is 100Hz compatible so it should work on your T.V. however, note the warning in your PS2 maual that the machine is not to be used on RPTVs.

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    MHC

    Rank: Sony Enthusiant


    Joined: Aug 05, 2003
    Posts: 44
    From: Canada

      Posted: 2003-09-18 15:58

    I just brought one from Play-Asia that is suppose to be 100Mhz compatible, but on the box it says it will NOT work with Projection TV (Don't know if they mean front projection). I will be trying it out tonight on my RPTV. It is suppose to be HDTV compatible as well, but, not HD from my PS2......
    Although I suppose Sony DRC will change it to 480P.....Is that HD ?

    The funny thing is, I could have swear that all the Time Crisis 2/3 games in the arcade are on RPTVs......



       
    MHC

    Rank: Sony Enthusiant


    Joined: Aug 05, 2003
    Posts: 44
    From: Canada

      Posted: 2003-10-02 14:56

    Just for completeness, my supposely 100Mhz compatible light gun does NOT work with my RPTV.

    I am actually somewhat confused aboout the 100Mhz. Since it is CRT, there is really beam of light reflecting off the screen.......There isn't a frequency to speak off from a scanning point of view, right ?

    Anyway, still searching for a light gun that will work on RPTV. I was sure there used to be a pelican gun that claims it will work on RP and HD TVs......


       
    Witchboard

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: Jan 09, 2003
    Posts: 73
    From: USA

      Posted: 2003-10-06 13:30

    It's 100Hz the frequency, not 100Mhz the speed. Just for clarification. It's the frequency of the monitor that projects the image onto the screen. Kind of like a CRT monitor you can change the frequency in the setup. It's unfortunate that your gun didn't work. At one point I found a list of lightguns and RPTV's they worked with. I'll have to do some searching to see if I can find it again. But I remember that some guns worked on some but not other RPTV's. I'm not sure what the differences were since I don't have any games that require a gun and didn't take the time to look hard.

    Edit: Hmm.. I'm seeing it as both 100Hz & 100Mhz. I wonder if there's a difference or if they are talking about the same thing.

    [ This message was edited by: Witchboard on 2003-10-06 13:38 ]


       
    greypatch3

    Rank: Sony Fan


    Joined: Oct 06, 2003
    Posts: 5
    From: United States

      Posted: 2003-10-08 22:19

    So, just a guess here...I assume there's no way in the world I'll be getting the original Time Crisis to work on my component video PS2 hookup with my CRT, 16:9 TV. Tried multiple times to get it to work somehow but it just won't register, even with a composite (I hope that's the right one to use for the single, yellow RCA plug...I keep getting the two mixed up) hookup. I don't think my TV is supposed to be incompatible, but then, they keep saying the original Guncon won't work on those kinds of TVs anyway, even with a Guncon2-style gun in Guncon 1 mode.


       
    Witchboard

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: Jan 09, 2003
    Posts: 73
    From: USA

      Posted: 2003-10-10 10:07

    If you TV isn't a rear projection set then it may be possible to get it to work. I haven't seen any component cables with the gun connection. Maybe I just haven't seen them, but with new TV technology and the outdated gun games, it will probably be difficult to get it working. I use an old 27" set to play all my PS1 shooting games in the bedroom.


       
    dakar4x4

    Rank: Sony Fan


    Joined: Nov 28, 2003
    Posts: 7
    From: UK (Peterborough)

      Posted: 2003-11-28 08:10

    Hey guys... I've found a way to make the GUNCON2 work with 100hz TV's.

    So far I've only be able to confirm Time Crisis 2 and Time Crisis 3.

    When on the Calibration screen. Point the GUNCON2 away from the screen. Hold trigger and press the SELECT button (it's on the Left hand side of the gun, nearest the muzzle). This will put the calibration into 100hz mode and a little 100Hz message will appear on-screen to confirm this.

    It's then possible to calibrate as normal.

    I've done this with my Sony KX32FQ70U 100hz digital scan TV and it works perfectly!

    Enjoy

    Jon.


       
    SimonBirchNYC

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: Oct 23, 2001
    Posts: 54
    From: NEW YORK, NY

      Posted: 2003-12-03 22:55

    Great info dakar!

    However, since I'm in the USA, I dunno what the equivalent of your set is here. I noticed specific examples of RPTV sets, but has anyone here gotten their Sony CRT set to work with the Guncon2 yet? The sets I have are the 40XBR800 and the 32FS100. Please advise if the Guncon2 will work or if another gun will (Scorpion 3?).

    I would buy the Guncon2 and test it, but the salespeople stated that since it comes bundled with Time Crisis 3, if I open the box, it's as if I opened the game and that would render it un-returnable.

    Thanks guys.


          
    GMGQ

    Rank: Sony Fan


    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
    Posts: 6
    From: Vancouver, BC

      Posted: 2003-12-05 10:51

    Wow, I didn't even know this thread was still active!

    Actually, I recently bought the Scorpion 3 lightgun, and it didn't work with my 65" HDTV. Same problem as the Guncons (sporatic behavior all over the screen).

    Since then, I installed my PSX to a regular 20" CRT TV in my room, and am enjoying gun games again (the laser sight on the Scorpion is so cool!).

    dakar4x4: Great advice, I will have to give that a try! I'm surprised Namco never mentioned this??


    PS, BTW JIMMYBO, I believe the PS2 manual says it should not be used on a RPTV, because they don't want to be liable if you get Screen Burn from all the static graphics in the games.


       
    SimonBirchNYC

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: Oct 23, 2001
    Posts: 54
    From: NEW YORK, NY

      Posted: 2003-12-05 15:50

    But has anyone managed to get it to work with flat screen crt sets (like the 40XBR800 or the 32FS100)? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!


          
    dakar4x4

    Rank: Sony Fan


    Joined: Nov 28, 2003
    Posts: 7
    From: UK (Peterborough)

      Posted: 2003-12-10 07:25

    > dakar4x4: Great advice,
    No worries, my pleasure.

    > I will have to give that a try!
    > I'm surprised Namco never mentioned this??

    Yup, me too.. I can only assume it failed to get translated to english or is not a fully compatible and supported thing. Either way, it works for me!

    Cheers & Happy Holidays

    J


       
    SimonBirchNYC

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: Oct 23, 2001
    Posts: 54
    From: NEW YORK, NY

      Posted: 2004-01-09 15:04

    Well, I took the plunge and imported the BLACK japanese Guncon2 from lik-sang. I followed dakar4x4's advice and sure enough, it goes into progressive scan mode and calibrates perfectly! Thanks SO much!

    Only one prob though, I can't get it to work on my 40XBR800, but it works like a charm on my 32FS100. When I do the dakar4x4 trick (wow, you got a trick named after you now !) on the 40XBR800, the crosshair still won't center properly. I've been told by my geek buddies at EBoutique that XBR sets will not work with ANY lightgun (even Xbox?...darn..) Oh well, still a great game and happy to be able to play it. Thanks again! 


          
    dakar4x4

    Rank: Sony Fan


    Joined: Nov 28, 2003
    Posts: 7
    From: UK (Peterborough)

      Posted: 2004-01-12 05:10

    Hey Simon, glad you're working Ok... But tell me, what's this 'Black GunCon2'? Mine are a horrible Blue colour, Black sounds much nicer! Do you have a URL of where you got yours from?

    TIA

    Jon.



       
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