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    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-10 18:33

    Stumbled upon this lil gem & couldn't pass it up! Original owner said it was sitting idle for years & hopefully the kss-272a laser has lots of life left!
    Needs a good cleaning inside & out, but works & plays flawlessly. Tracks fast like my 608ESD & looks to be a good candidate for a copper shielding & AC plug upgrade. Its a very lively player & nicely balanced & reminds me of the 608ESD in that aspect. I don't see the Burr Brown dacs present like in the 608 but maybe Sony was making there own dac's by 1990?

    Upgrades to follow......








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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




       


    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-11 06:04

    608ESD/X33ES comparison:

    such a thing of beauty to open the hood on an ES player & see nothing but premium elna caps everywhere & copper heat sinks!
    the transport/laser setup looks to be the same in both players but i noticed the 608ESD has a kss-151a laser & the X33ES has a kss-272a laser.









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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




       
    mykyll2727

    Rank: Sony Pro


    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas

      Posted: 2012-08-11 11:38

    Thanks for the pics!! You certainly have one fine and extensive collection of vintage Sony players!! Congrats!_mykl


       
    ES

    Rank: Sony Enthusiant


    Joined: Feb 04, 2011
    Posts: 48
    From: Malm, Sweden

      Posted: 2012-08-13 11:28

    Congrats of your purchase! My X33 was my first ES gear. Its still in absolute mint condition, without even the tiniest mark or scratch (Im VERY careful with my stuff..). Nowadays I dont use it very much (since using my X77 and X55s), but its a really great CD player.. Thanks for the pics!

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    TA-N77ES , TA-N80ES, TA-E80ES (2x), TA-E77ESD, SDP-EP9ES, CDP-X707ES, CDP-X77ES, CDP-X55ES (3x), CDP-X303ES, CDP-X339ES, CDP-X33ES, CDP-X222ES, TA-F570ES, STR-GX900ES, TC-K950ES, TC-K970ES, ST-S770ES, ST-S707ES, TA-N9000ES, TA-E9000ES, DVP-S7700, DTC-55ES


    [ This message was edited by: ES on 2012-08-13 11:35 ]


       
    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-13 13:05



    mykl & ES:


    thanks for the replies! I'm in the middle upgrading the X33ES as we speak, with copper shielding & a new Leviton Hospital grade plug & 14ga. wire. Pics to follow....


    PS...at a closer look the laser is a kss-270a, not the kss-272a. 


       
    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-13 16:11

    Here's some updated pics of the new upgrades:

















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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




       
    mykyll2727

    Rank: Sony Pro


    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas

      Posted: 2012-08-13 23:17

    Great work! I love it. Thanks for sharing!!_mkyl


       
    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-14 16:17

    Thanks mkyl!

    I'm really impressed with the results. It took me a couple hours to disassemble & reassemble everything. Besides the ac plug & copper shielding, i also cleaned up all of the loose wiring in the player. The wiring from the power supply looked like it was trying to jump out . I also lubed the cd tray rails & gears while i was in there & cleaned the laser eye as well.
    When i first listened to the stock X33ES it sounded good, but not as loud & out spoken as the 608ESD & the bass was a bit on the thin & weak side....but not anymore.
    The bass has leaped out front & center!! It is very close to 608ESD in that department now & i also noticed the vocals & mid range is more out front than before.
    I put in Bryan adams MTV unplugged cd which is very well recorded & his vocals & acoustic guitar are front & center along with the added bass response... almost sounds like your sitting at the concert....very nice.
    I then popped in sum Dire straits & Pink Floyd & the bass has more power & projection with nice bottom-end...not muddy at all...i was pleasantly surprised!

    I dont think the X33ES is up there with the Burr-Brown dacs & build quality of the 608ESD but it is a close 2nd for sure...with a few more mods who knows! Maybe an upgrade in the cap dept. would produce even more results.
    Still amazes me how an upgrade in AC plug & heavier gauge wire can mke this much difference in these players.



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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




       
    mykyll2727

    Rank: Sony Pro


    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas

      Posted: 2012-08-14 19:06

    I'm truly impressed with your work. Not to mention what an awesome collection of players you have! I would love to see them all in the flesh. I wish I had the skills and means to mod some of my stuff. Like doing internal wiring and cap upgrades. Sure would be cheaper and more fun than having someone else do it for me._mykl

    [ This message was edited by: mykyll2727 on 2012-08-14 19:08 ]


       
    David_S

    Rank: Sony Legend


    Joined: Aug 03, 2004
    Posts: 905
    From: BC, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-15 22:50

    The interior copper coatings you apply look so good that it is a shame they cannot be seen when the top case is put back on.



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    TA- E77ES E80ES E1000ESD E9000ES
    TA- N77ES F555ES, ST-S730ES
    RM- AV3000 AX1400 (2)AX4000
    STR- DA4ES DA3100ES (2)DA5700ES (2)GX10ES
    DVP- (3)NS999ES NS3100ES CX777ES
    CDP-X303ES, CDP-M555ES
    MDS-JA20ES, TC-K717ES, DTC-690


       
    mykyll2727

    Rank: Sony Pro


    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas

      Posted: 2012-08-16 00:26

    • Member Quote

    On 2012-08-15 22:50, David_S wrote:
    The interior copper coatings you apply look so good that it is a shame they cannot be seen when the top case is put back on.



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    +1!_mykl


       
    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-17 09:10

    If anyone's interested, there a couple X33ES for sale on ebay:


    $149.99 VG Condition/no remote
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-CDP-X33ES-High-Density-Linear-Converter-CD-Player-/150878591319?pt=US_CD_Players_Recorders&hash=item2321109957

    $239.99 Mint Condition/remote & manual incl.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-CDP-X33ES-High-Density-Linear-Converter-Audiophile-CD-Player-/251128972150?pt=US_CD_Players_Recorders&hash=item3a78740376



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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




       
    Johnnycanso

    Rank: Sony Aficionado


    Joined: Jan 16, 2010
    Posts: 137
    From: East Coast, Canada

      Posted: 2012-08-17 12:03

    • Member Quote

    On 2012-08-15 22:50, David_S wrote:
    The interior copper coatings you apply look so good that it is a shame they cannot be seen when the top case is put back on.



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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




    Hmmm....How cool would a clear cover be
    I must say that after the upgrade on the X33ES, my X202ES is sounding kinda thin in the bass department...anyone see were this is going!!!



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    1978 PS-X60
    1979 PS-X4(2)
    1989 STR-GX10ES
    1989 CDP-608ESD(2)
    1989 CDP-X7ESD(2)
    1990 CDP-X33ES
    1990 STR-D2020
    1992 TC-RX79ES
    1992 CDP-C89ES
    1993 CDP-C801ES




       
    Koen

    Rank: Sony Buff


    Joined: Jan 20, 2013
    Posts: 12
    From: Netherlands

      Posted: 2013-04-08 08:03

    Very nice and inspiring work, Johnny!

    What did you use for shielding, copper plate or copper tape?

    For those interested in the cdp x33es, sony did release a pro version known as the cdp-2700.
    I don't know if sony used the same components for the cdp-2700 as for the x33es, but it has balanced xlr outputs..

    In holland they are even cheaper than the x33es.



    *edit
    Little more reading and i have foundation my answer, you use 3M EMI foil/tape..

    [ This message was edited by: Koen on 2013-04-08 08:21 ]


       
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