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jusgrr8
 Rank: Sony Enthusiant 
Joined: Oct 24, 2009
Posts: 30
From: u.s.
 | Posted: 2009-10-24 23:37
bravia kdl-40v3000 turns on for two seconds then standby light blinks 13 times. already replaced the inverter board. is the light tube bad in the lcd? is that why i was told i need a new lcd panel? if i take out the lcd panel can i replace the tube? what is the answer here??
 
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jehill
Premium Member
 Rank: Sony Senior Advisor 
Joined: Mar 13, 2003
Posts: 13820
From: Sewell, NJ
 | Posted: 2009-10-25 08:44
Welcome to Agoraquest! If found the following bulletin that advises that you need to replace the LCD panel. You cannot remove/replace the light source in the panel.
Subject
Replacement Balancer Board no longer available for 13 blink error
Symptoms / Customer Description
Cause
If there is a 13 blink error, replace the complete LCD panel. Refer to appropriate service manual.
Solution
The ETC-Inverter MT Boards (Balancer Boards) are no longer available for the 40 and 46 FIX2 models. The repair history of these models indicates that a shutdown with a 13-blink error code is virtually always caused by a backlight lamp requiring replacement of the LCD panel.
 
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jusgrr8
 Rank: Sony Enthusiant 
Joined: Oct 24, 2009
Posts: 30
From: u.s.
 | Posted: 2009-10-25 19:19
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have replaced ccfl tubes on laptops so i took the screen apart. What i found is 20 ccfl tubes and guess what--- 1 of them is burned out. So if i am lucky i can find 1 plug it in and be back in business. They are approx 36" long pt#QR30d and they push into clips on each side. Need some patience for this kind of repair but at least i have room to work not like on a laptop. I will repost if i am successful. Beats replacing a 2000 dollar screen. Do you have any tips where to find this tube?
 
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jehill
Premium Member
 Rank: Sony Senior Advisor 
Joined: Mar 13, 2003
Posts: 13820
From: Sewell, NJ
 | Posted: 2009-10-26 18:57
That's for sure! Please keep us posted!
 
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jusgrr8
 Rank: Sony Enthusiant 
Joined: Oct 24, 2009
Posts: 30
From: u.s.
 | Posted: 2009-11-03 23:19
SUCCESS The Bravia is up and running with a 20dollar ccfl tube replacement. No 2000 dollar screen for me!!!!
 
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claudio
Moderator Premium Member
 Rank: Ultimate Sony Reviewer 
Joined: Aug 30, 2001
Posts: 2355
From: Rockville, MD
 | Posted: 2009-11-03 23:21
Congratulations. A $20 fix avoids a $2000 replacement. Always good to hear these stories.
 
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computerexpert
 Rank: Sony Fan 
Joined: Sep 06, 2009
Posts: 2
From: Utah, USA
 | Posted: 2009-11-07 15:15
Perfect! I have the same model with the same failure. Backlight comes on for a second then shuts off and the LED blinks 13 times. I have also replaced backlights in laptop screens, so I believe I can tackle this one. Do you have a source for the CCFL? I didn't find anything searching for part # QR30d. Do you have the specs?
 
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jusgrr8
 Rank: Sony Enthusiant 
Joined: Oct 24, 2009
Posts: 30
From: u.s.
 | Posted: 2009-11-07 20:21
http://ccflwarehouse.com/30.html 900mm x 3mm
 
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lenosj
 Rank: Sony Fan 
Joined: Nov 22, 2009
Posts: 2
From:
 | Posted: 2009-11-22 01:37
jusgrr8, Did you figure out how to open the clip for the CCFL? It looks as if part of the clip should pop up and free the wire, but I am afraid to use too much force.
thanks, Scott
 
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jusgrr8
 Rank: Sony Enthusiant 
Joined: Oct 24, 2009
Posts: 30
From: u.s.
 | Posted: 2009-11-22 12:41
If you mean the metal clips on the ends of the ccfl i just used a pocket screwdriver and slightly twisted it while moving the tube free. If you mean the plastic clips in the center i used an exacto knife and cut the clip a little larger so i could move the tube without forcing or bending it.
 
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klhume
 Rank: Sony Fan 
Joined: Nov 21, 2009
Posts: 4
From: canada
 | Posted: 2009-11-22 14:27
On 2009-10-24 23:37, jusgrr8 wrote: bravia kdl-40v3000 turns on for two seconds then standby light blinks 13 times. already replaced the inverter board. is the light tube bad in the lcd? is that why i was told i need a new lcd panel? if i take out the lcd panel can i replace the tube? what is the answer here?? hi there,glad to hear you fixed the problem! I have a bravia KDL- 40V4100,I also get 13 red flashes then pause 1 sec then 13 flashes,the set won't turn ON at all,you say your problem ended up being the LCD panel? If that fixed the problem what is it like to install yourself? Where to you buy and how much? Regrards and thanks for you help and reply in advance! Kim [/hiquote]
 
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klhume
 Rank: Sony Fan 
Joined: Nov 21, 2009
Posts: 4
From: canada
 | Posted: 2009-11-22 14:27
On 2009-10-24 23:37, jusgrr8 wrote: bravia kdl-40v3000 turns on for two seconds then standby light blinks 13 times. already replaced the inverter board. is the light tube bad in the lcd? is that why i was told i need a new lcd panel? if i take out the lcd panel can i replace the tube? what is the answer here?? hi there,glad to hear you fixed the problem! I have a bravia KDL- 40V4100,I also get 13 red flashes then pause 1 sec then 13 flashes,the set won't turn ON at all,you say your problem ended up being the LCD panel? If that fixed the problem what is it like to install yourself? Where to you buy and how much? Regrards and thanks for you help and reply in advance! Kim [/hiquote]
 
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jusgrr8
 Rank: Sony Enthusiant 
Joined: Oct 24, 2009
Posts: 30
From: u.s.
 | Posted: 2009-11-22 14:38
There are 20 ccfl tubes in your screen for light. If 1 is bad your set will not turn on. Its a delicate job to repair. The source of the tubes is listed above. ccfl warehouse.
 
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lenosj
 Rank: Sony Fan 
Joined: Nov 22, 2009
Posts: 2
From:
 | Posted: 2009-11-23 14:10
On 2009-11-22 12:41, jusgrr8 wrote: If you mean the metal clips on the ends of the ccfl i just used a pocket screwdriver and slightly twisted it while moving the tube free. If you mean the plastic clips in the center i used an exacto knife and cut the clip a little larger so i could move the tube without forcing or bending it.
Thanks, The plastic/metal clips at the end of each tube look to be a compression fitting. You lift it up and the two metal contacts separate, you insert the CCFL lead and then depress it and the metal contacts pinch down again. I was just afraid of using too much force. No need to turn a $20+ fix into a more expensive one.
thanks again for your method, Scott
 
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azusa
 Rank: Sony Fan 
Joined: Nov 23, 2009
Posts: 8
From: Canada
 | Posted: 2009-11-25 21:13
Hi jusgrr8,
How to replaced the inverter board? I find it is very difficult to remove the inverter board (KDL-40W3000). My image is kdl-40v3000 and kdl-40w3000 is pretty much the same. Can you please shed a light on that?
Thanks in advance,
 
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