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modded da900 with 7100 ilink/hdmi combo |
SonyCIS
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 |  Posted: 2009-02-27 10:17
the best of both, do you guys think it is poss to take the ilink/hdmi board out of my extra da7100 and put it into an extra da9000es enlighten please, I have the service man to the da9000 and of course the parts,.....the board might just communicate with the mother board on the da9000, the chips are also all on the board for the hdmi, just need 3,5 volts, help me make this work...or forget it thanks
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Welwynnick
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From: Welwyn, Herts, UK
 |  Posted: 2009-02-27 12:57
Brilliant idea if it works. I'll have a look at my DA9000 schematics for some clues. Based on my experience with the 7100 & 9000 I think Sony have missed a trick by not doing this for us.
Nick
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Welwynnick
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From: Welwyn, Herts, UK
| Posted: 2009-02-28 05:48
Thinking about it overnight, I had a couple of ideas. This forum has a few threads on the STR- or TA-DA91000 amplifier which does have HDMI inputs. There are probably some pictures of the rear panel, and it may be possible to se whether the 9100 uses the same P/N module as the 7100. From memory, they did look the same.
There was also an upgrade programme for the 9000 to make it a 9050 IIRC. This was covered around here a couple of years ago. There may be some information about what changes are necessary. The 9100 has room correction like most new receivers, and I guess that might be out of the question for the 9000. The important bit wil be whether the 9000 needs a different mother board or software to run an HDMI interface.
Nick
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Maxxwire
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 | Posted: 2009-02-28 07:07
I don't know if this helps or not, but back in 2005 the modifications for the 9000ES up to the 9005ES were as follows-
- Upgrade of S-Master Pro from 24 bit to 32 bit precision
- two i.link inputs
- HDMI inputs (2 inputs, 1 output)
- Dolby Pro Logic IIx
- Multiple Zone
- New Remote
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jehill
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From: Sewell, NJ
 | Posted: 2009-02-28 19:31
It looks like the HDMI inputs (2 inputs, 1 output) STR-DA9000ES mod replaced the existing DVI-D connectors with HDMI connectors and replaced the DVI board with an HDMI board. The TA-DA9000ES doesn't include DVI-D I/O, so I doubt that it could be modified to include HDMI I/O.
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Welwynnick
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From: Welwyn, Herts, UK
| Posted: 2009-03-01 05:01
Looking at the rear panels of the TA-DA9000 and TA-DA9100, it looks like it was the i-link board that was replaced by the HDMI board. That stands to reason, as the DVI board wouldn't have had a digital audio connection into the mother board.
http://66.102.9.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.sony.jp/audio/info/20051208_pop_rp.html&prev=_t&usg=ALkJrhhcQ5VQXSqXNR11r-Z3UxN2TDrJEA
Nick
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Mr_Mod
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From: Singapore
| Posted: 2009-03-01 07:16
I doubt any MOD like this would work without modifications to the units firmware. Although in principle it sounds good, i would guess that not a single memebr here would have the tolls necessary to takle re writing the firmware
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SonyCIS
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| Posted: 2009-03-04 10:57
remember i can take all parts from 7100 to make the 9005, think out of box .....
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SonyCIS
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| Posted: 2009-03-04 15:13
firmware is on a surface mt chip right
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Maxxwire
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| Posted: 2009-03-04 15:39
SonyCIS- Here are Member bizzibee's thoughts on the DA9000ES to DA 9005ES upgrade that Sony was doing in its Malasian facilities in 2006. The links are no longer functional, but the post remains a record of the existence and viability of the 9000ES Mod-
On 2005-12-30 15:58, bizzibee wrote: Here are my thoughts on the upgrade Sony Japan are offering it's TA-DA9000ES customers. I would love to upgrade my TA-DA9000ES to get DVD-Audio via iLink. Yes the other improvements would be good as well I guess. However I'm not sure the upgrade is value for money. However I'm sure there would beothers who think it is. I'm not really that interested in the Digital Cinema Auto Calibration feature. However if it did do a really good job, then it would be worth having. It's a pity it isn't offered in this upgrade considering the cost of the upgrade. The cost of the upgrade is 294,000 Yen. As noted by some of the Japanese on-line AV Mags, that is almost half the cost of a new TA-DA9100ES. 294,000Yen, is approx. 3,398.37 AUD, 2,491.90 USD or 1,448.40 GBP. It is almost half the cost I would expect the TA-DA9100ES to sell for here inAustralia, if it ever was released here. Customers have from 16th December 2005 to 15th February 2006 to 'order' the upgrade. However the actual upgrade won't take place until May 2006. Seems like a long time to wait. It looks like you loose the Direct Mode after the upgrade. Not that I use that feature anyway. Taken from www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/AV-HiFi/support/change_service.html
Taken from www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/AV-HiFi/support/change_service.html
Taken from
www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/AV-HiFi/support/change_service.html
It will be interesting to see if the 'TA-DA9005ES Upgrade' (less the D5 toD4 upgrade), is offered outside Japan. Perhaps Sony Japan is testing the 'Upgrade waters' so to speak in Japan. Apart from all the Japanese on-line Mag/Sites reporting the TA-DA9005ES upgrade. A French on-line AV Mag has also reported the TA-DA9005ES upgrade on it's site.See: www.multiroom.fr/gestion.php/2005/12/13/evolutions_majeures_pour_l_ampli_home_ci WorldLingo Web Translator: www.worldlingo.com/en/websites/url_translator.html I would like DVD-Audio via iLink but not for $3,398.37 AUD. I'm not sure how much the other new features of the TA-DA9100ES (less Digital Cinema Auto Calibration) are worth to a current TA-DA9000ES owner. TA-DA9000ES owner outside Japan might get the following if the upgrade was offered: Upgrade of S-Master Pro from 24 bit to 32 bit precision Two i.link inputs HDMI inputs (2 inputs, 1 output) Dolby Pro Logic IIx Multiple Zone New Remote STR-DA9000ES owner might get the following if the upgrade was offered: Upgrade of S-Master Pro from 24 bit to 32 bit precision two i.link inputs DVI to HDMI modification ⇒ HDMI inputs (2 inputs, 1 output) Dolby Pro Logic IIx New Remote Mark
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SonyCIS
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| Posted: 2009-03-05 09:38
December 8, 2005 Sony Corporation, Sony Corporation
日頃よりソニー製品をご愛用いただき、誠にありがとうございます。 We love our Sony products, from around, very thoughtful. このたび、TA-DA9000ESをご愛用のお客さまへ、 This time, TA-DA9000ES to favored customers,
音質向上と機能アップを中心とした変更を有償サービスプログラムとしてご案内いたします。 Information Services Program will be paid as a change-up and improved sound quality and features.
この有償サービスプログラムによるおもな変更内容は以下の通りです。 Major changes in this program are paid services.
記 Details
- ■主な変更内容 ■ The main changes
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- S-Masterのプロセッサを24ビット精度から32ビット精度へ変更 S-Master processor 24-bit precision to 32-bit precision change
- i.LINK端子を1系統追加（計2系統） Add a pin i.LINK strains (strain gauge)
- DVI端子をHDMI端子へ変更⇒HDMI端子（2入力/1出力） DVI to HDMI terminal to terminal changes ⇒ HDMI terminals (2 input / 1 output)
- D端子とコンポーネント端子の同時出力に対応 Supports simultaneous output terminal D terminal and component
- D5端子をD4端子へ変更 Change D4 to D5 pin terminal
- Dolby Digital RF端子の削除 Dolby Digital RF pins removed
- Dolby Pro Logic IIx に対応 Supports Dolby Pro Logic IIx
- バイアンプ接続に対応 For the connection biamp
- マルチゾーンに対応 Multi-zone support
- 機能変更によるリモコン変更 Remote control function change due to change
- 保証期間の変更 Warranty change
変更されます機能の詳細につきましては、下記の『「有償サービスプログラム」の詳細はこちら』にてご確認ください。 For more features will be changed, following the "Solutions Program" details, please check in here. ＊有償サービスプログラムの詳細はこちら * Details of the service program fee is here
- ■お申し込み受付期間 ■ application period
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2005年12月16日～2006年2月15日まで 2005 - December 16 until Sunday February 15, 2006
- ■有償サービスプログラム実施予定時期 ■ The planned service program fee
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2006年5月 May 2006
- ■お申し込み方法 ■ How to apply
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- 「お買い上げの販売店」でのお申し込み "Dealer of purchase" in the application
＊お申し込み方法の詳細はこちら * Details of how to apply here
- 「ソニーお客様専用デスク」でのお申し込み "We SONY desk" in the application
＊お申し込み方法の詳細はこちら * Details of how to apply here
- ■有償サービスプログラム価格 ■ Pricing Solutions program
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294,000円（税抜価格280,000円） 294,000 yen (tax excluded price of 280,000 yen)
本体の受け取り以外の作業(設置、工事、接続調整など）の費用は含まれておりません。 Non-acceptance of body work (installation, construction, connection and adjustment) costs are not included.
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Add a pin i.LINK strains (strain gauge) what did this ipmrove, was this a requirement for new audio decompression?
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SonyCIS
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| Posted: 2009-03-05 09:40
please read more d4 to d5,, dolby digital rf removed, for connection biamp????does this sound like firmware hardware, or motherboard change??
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Welwynnick
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Posts: 434
From: Welwyn, Herts, UK
| Posted: 2010-05-10 07:14
I don't know whether SonyCIS has been able to make any progress with upgrading his DA9000ES, but thinking about it recently, I doubt there is much hope. I've been fortunate to get hold of the schematics for both the DA9000ES and DA7100ES, and there are some significant differences. Al inputs on the DA9000ES are buffered, switched, then converted to DSD for processing. Its then converted to PCM for lipsync (IIRC) then fed to the output stage. The DA7100ES is quite different, and uses entirely PCM for processing. I don't know whether the architecture of the DA9100ES follows that of the 9000 or the 7100, and I've no idea whether that means the sound quality of the 9100 will be like that of the 9000 or the 7100.
I am hoping to find out though. I've been trying to find a way to get hold of a DA9100ES for years, my 9000 having fought off every processor and power amp that I could throw in its way. I believe I have just secured a used DA9100 from a dealer in Japan, that I am hoping to import. I'm trying not to get too excited, but the thought of DA9k SQ with a 24-bit digital audio chain like the 7100 is literally making my mouth water.
I'll be holding onto my DA9000 until the 9100 arrives, so I can make some comparisons with different sources. So fingers crossed in eager anticipation. I've got my local repair shop revved up to get 240V transformers instead of the 100V units, and I can't wait.
There must be a good reason why this has been Sony's flagship AV amplifier for five years.
Nick
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Maxxwire
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| Posted: 2010-05-10 14:34
On 2010-05-10 07:14, Welwynnick wrote:
I believe I have just secured a used DA9100 from a dealer in Japan, that I am hoping to import.
Nick
Now that's some exciting news!
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AnthonyP
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From: Melbourne / Australia
 | Posted: 2010-05-11 00:20
Nick,
Please let us know how the 9100ES goes. I would be very much interested in doing the same thing, but for Australia.
I can only hope that at some stage in the near future Sony will release a TA-DA9x00ES with multiple HDMI 1.3a inputs and 2 HDMI outputs. There should not be much to do on their end. They only really need to develope a board to replace the i-link interface board from a DA9000ES (as has been seen on the DA9100ES)
Anthony
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