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    Moderated By: claudio
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    SniperCane

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: May 16, 2004
    Posts: 64
    From: Orlando

      Posted: 2008-02-16 11:48

    About to take the plunge and buy a stand alone SACD/CD player. My question is analog interconnects vs. i-link.  Pros/Cons.

    As much as I'd love to pick up the 9100ES to match with my 7100ES, the single disc tray is admittedly a BIG draw back to me. And as I'd be using the machine strictly as a music transport ( the PS3 is arguably one of the best upconverting DVD players out there that, oh, BTW is also one of the best Blu-Ray players as well!!) it's video capabilities are inconsquential to me. So I'm wondering whether buying the 9100ES is worth it solely for its i-link capability???

    Is i-link better than analog?? Or is i-link just a better digital transport, that when up against analog done right, is no better or worse???

    Any and all opinions on the subject are greatly appreciated!!

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    Sony:KDL52XBR7, STR-DA7100ES, DVP-NS9100ES, PS3, RDR-VX500, CDP-CE535 DirecTV:HR20 HD DVR Harmony: 880 Athena: AS-F2, AS-C1, AS-R1, AS-P400 Stuart's: Glass Toslink Better Cable: (3) HDMI


       


    Maxxwire
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    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
    Posts: 26074
    From: Portland, Oregon - USA

      Posted: 2008-02-16 16:34

    SiperCane- Most people report a significant improvement in sound quality in both their SACD and CD recordings after after upgrading from a mid level Analog Player to an iLink capable Player like the NS9100ES.

    Most NS9100ES owners report that using iLink sounds much better than using the Analog outputs.

    The thing is that Analog Circuitry has many levels of sophistication and there are some very talented Analog circuit designers who have been taking it to higher and higher levels for over 100 years.

    Genius Analog circuit designer Dan Wright Modifies the Analog Circuitry of the NS9100ES to a new and higher level of performance using a proprietary clock upgrade and a discrete dual Triode Tube Analog output with its own individuated Tube rectified power supply causing its sound quality yo far exceed that of ilink which pales in comparison and thus goes unused while the sound quality of the ModWright NS9100ES is rated alongside the elite $20,000 Players!





    As a general rule of thumb though unless you are planning on spending up to $3,000 or more on an Analog Player and another $1,000 on premium quality Analog interconnects the NS9100ES using iLink would definately be the SACD/CD Player of choice.

    ~Maxx~


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    A Satisfied Sony Fan Since 1974!



    The OCCC Furu-Charged Sony DB 930


         
    SniperCane

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: May 16, 2004
    Posts: 64
    From: Orlando

      Posted: 2008-02-26 17:17

    Well..... after careful consideraton, I've decided to take the plunge and just purchased a 9100ES. Believe it or not I have been personally wrestling with this decsion from the moment I purchased my 7100ES. And while the PS3 and it's amazing ability to produce multi-channel/Hi-Res Stereo SACD temporarily eased this want, I couldn't hold back any longer.

    So Maxx, or others, where can I get those Belkin i-Link cables??   




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    Sony:KDS-R50XBR1-SXRD, STR-DA7100ES, PS3, RDR-VX500, CDP-CE535 DirecTV:HR20 HD DVR Harmony: 880 Athena: AS-F2, AS-C1, AS-R1, AS-P400 Stuart's: Glass Toslink Better Cable: (3) HDMI Monster: HTS 3600

    [ This message was edited by: SniperCane on 2008-02-26 17:18 ]


       
    Maxxwire
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    From: Portland, Oregon - USA

      Posted: 2008-02-26 19:00

    I know that this is probably going to be a great dissapointment to you, but the Belkin AV52002 Silver Series iLink Cable is no longer selling for its initial price of $44, but as a consolation I was able to find it still available at Electronics Outfitter for $22.90.



    ~Maxx~


         
    Toli
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    Joined: Oct 20, 2003
    Posts: 8509
    From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA

      Posted: 2008-02-26 19:21

    SniperCane,

    Congrats on the purchase of your NS91001ES! If I may ask, where did you purchase your NS9100ES? My local Sony Store has a refurbished NS9100ES for $599.
    I have this 6' cable, it's very nice. I also have the 12' version that I will be selling soon.



    Toli



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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
    SniperCane

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: May 16, 2004
    Posts: 64
    From: Orlando

      Posted: 2008-02-26 19:42

    WOW!!! Great find Maxx.

    Appreciate all your help and advice!!



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    SniperCane

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: May 16, 2004
    Posts: 64
    From: Orlando

      Posted: 2008-02-26 19:50

    Hey Toli !!

    Thanks for the congrats.  I'm excited!! Here's the link to the e-bay auction.  I talked to the guy and everything seems to be exactly as listed!!


    http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-DVP-NS9100ES-DVD-Player-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ290209757268QQihZ019QQcategoryZ15077QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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    Sony:KDS-R50XBR1-SXRD, STR-DA7100ES, PS3, RDR-VX500, CDP-CE535 DirecTV:HR20 HD DVR Harmony: 880 Athena: AS-F2, AS-C1, AS-R1, AS-P400 Stuart's: Glass Toslink Better Cable: (3) HDMI Monster: HTS 3600

    [ This message was edited by: SniperCane on 2008-02-26 19:51 ]


       
    Toli
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    From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA

      Posted: 2008-02-26 20:06

    SniperCane,

    It looks really nice, and you are lucky to get such a deal on a new NS9100ES!

    The only thing is that the warranty won't be valid, unless something has changed. The issue with purchasing a unit from Canada, the warranty won't be valid. And if I remember right, Sony Canada offers a three year warranty on ES gear and the US offers five years. Of course the NS9100ES has been a reliable unit, so you probably have no worries.

    I don't know why, but even when someone gets a nice piece of H/T gear, I get as excited as if it was my own! Congrats again!   

    Toli



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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
    lemoncadillac
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    Joined: Sep 23, 2005
    Posts: 380
    From: Minneapolis,MN. USA

      Posted: 2008-02-26 22:17

    SniperCane

    Question & AnswerAnswered On
    Q: Hi, Normally, US Sony ES components come with a 5 year warranty. Is there some difference b/c you're in Canada or has Sony changed their policy ? Cheers !Feb-15-08
    A:  Canadian ES product warranty is 3 years, but valid in US. Same stuff.
    Q: Hello: Is the warranty honored by Sony USA? Thank You ZoeFeb-14-08
    A:  YES



    I am sure you will no issues with warranty.  Most of the 9100's have no problems.  Just something I found.  Congrates on a great SACD player.  You will love it.  Great price on a new 9100ES.

    Good Luck
    Lemon





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    KDF-E50A10
    SUNFIRE ULTIMATE(FORMALLY 4ES/5000ES)
    DVP-NS9100ES W/BEL CANTO AIDA DAC
    F-RECTILINEAR 4-1/2/KLIPSCH RB5
    C-2 KLIPSCH KG 1.3/S-KLIPSCH RCW5
    R-SYNERGISTICS S92 W/2-12"KSW12/ADS MOD.10/Sony TA-AX435
    Sunfire EQ Signature
    HTS 3600-BDP-S1


         
    RWetmore

    Rank: Sonyphile


    Joined: Dec 02, 2006
    Posts: 496
    From: New Jersey

      Posted: 2008-02-26 22:36

    Wow great price. I thought I got a good deal on mine for $570.


       
    Maxxwire
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    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    From: Portland, Oregon - USA

      Posted: 2008-02-26 23:32

    • Member Quote

    On 2008-02-26 22:36, RWetmore wrote:
    Wow great price.I thought I got a good deal on mine for $570.


    RW- Now we have a little more insight as to why his Moniker is Sniper-Cane!

    ~Maxx~



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    The OCCC Furu-Charged Sony DB 930


         
    SniperCane

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: May 16, 2004
    Posts: 64
    From: Orlando

      Posted: 2008-02-27 15:30

    I am sure you will no issues with warranty.  Most of the 9100's have no problems.  Just something I found.  Congrates on a great SACD player.  You will love it.  Great price on a new 9100ES.

    Good Luck
    Lemon




    Thanks for the heads up, Lemon. While I wasn't necessarily worried about any problems, it's nice to know that it is in fact covered here in the U.S.



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    [ This message was edited by: SniperCane on 2008-02-27 15:31 ]

    [ This message was edited by: SniperCane on 2008-02-27 15:32 ]


       
    SniperCane

    Rank: Sony Devotee


    Joined: May 16, 2004
    Posts: 64
    From: Orlando

      Posted: 2008-02-27 15:33

    • Member Quote

    On 2008-02-26 23:32, Maxxwire wrote:
    • Member Quote

    On 2008-02-26 22:36, RWetmore wrote:
    Wow great price.  I thought I got a good deal on mine for $570.


    RW- Now we have a little more insight as to why his Moniker is Sniper-Cane!

    ~Maxx~



    Haha.  You all have NO idea.    




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    Sony:KDL52XBR7, STR-DA7100ES, DVP-NS9100ES, PS3, RDR-VX500, CDP-CE535 DirecTV:HR20 HD DVR Harmony: 880 Athena: AS-F2, AS-C1, AS-R1, AS-P400 Stuart's: Glass Toslink Better Cable: (3) HDMI


       
    RWetmore

    Rank: Sonyphile


    Joined: Dec 02, 2006
    Posts: 496
    From: New Jersey

      Posted: 2008-02-27 23:40

    Be sure to report when you get your player.


       
    Maxxwire
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    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    From: Portland, Oregon - USA

      Posted: 2008-02-28 14:11

    Sniper-Cane- We may not have any idea as to the whole story behind your Moniker but your new NS9100ES iLink Player, DA7100ES iLink Digital Receiver, and Athena Speakers which include the legendary AS-F2 series Towers reveal a high degree of accuracy in the purchases you have made for your Home Theater.

    I join RW and the host of others who are looking forward to hearing your detailed listening comments about the new level of Synergy that the NS9100ES brings to your team of A/V equipment.

    ~Maxx~


         
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