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    Moderated By: Toli
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    To Buy or Not to Buy? 7100ES Dashboard
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    Author To Buy or Not to Buy? 7100ES
    SNY4ME
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    Joined: Nov 13, 2005
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    From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-02 00:15

    Should I buy a STR-DA7100ES? I REALLY love this reciever and want to buy it SO bad. But I'm concerned, that Sony will not offer an update to the software, to allow it to switch 1080p.

    I am trying to buy products that will be up-to-date for a long while to come. The other thing is, that I will be buying a 1080p TV with at least 2 HDMI inputs. So I could probably get away with not needing full 1080p capability in my reciever.

    So, tell me. Should I buy it and take the chance?

    Lyle


       


    Toli
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    From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA

      Posted: 2006-03-02 07:11

    SNY4ME,

    IMO, the least amount of everything (i.e. wiring, equiptment) between the source (i.e. STB, DVD player) and the TV the better. I can't tell you if you should by the STR-DA7100ES or not, but if I wanted it I sure would. The STR-DA7100ES and the possible soon-to-be STR-DA9100ES are on my short list right now, of replacement for my STR-DA7ES, when I decide I am ready.

    So to me what signal the receiver would allow to pass through or not, is a moot point, as I connect all video directly to the TV.

    Toli

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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
    jehill
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    Joined: Mar 13, 2003
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    From: Sewell, NJ

      Posted: 2006-03-02 15:10

    My information may be out of date, but 1080x1920 at 60 frames per second is not on the list of ATSC standard formats.  Here's what is:

    Resolution       Aspect        Frame
                         Ratio
    1080x1920      16:9            30i
    1080x1920      16:9            30p
    1080x1920      16:9            24p

    The difference between the first two formats is that every other line is scanned in 1/60 second in the first format and the first or second half of the lines are scanned progressively in 1/60 second in the second format.  Have you read anything that says what the 1080p frame rate will be?  Maybe its only 30p!  At any rate, the native format for LCos, LCD, DLP and plasma display devices has always been progressive.  That's why the new DLP and SXRD displays are progressive.  Its inherent in the display designs.  The problem is that, until now, the resolution has always been less than 1080x1920.  Are you sure that the STR-DA7100ES HDMI interface isn't compatible with a 1080x1920 60p input.  My guess is that it's definitely compatible with a 1080x1920 30p input because its included in the ATSC standard.

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    -John

    Sony A/V System: KDL-55XBR8, BDP-S550 and AVD-LA2500PKG, consisting of AVD-C70ES Super Audio CD/DVD Receiver, 4 SS-LA500ED surround speakers, 1 SS-LAC505ED center channel speaker and 1 SA-WD200 Active Subwoofer


       
    Maxxwire
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    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    From: Portland, Oregon - USA

      Posted: 2006-03-02 15:27

    Lyle- The DA7100ES is a great Digital Receiver and is selling for about 1/3 of what the illusive STR DA9100ES may sell for if it is ever released. Rumors of its availability started 9 months ago and we haven't seen a single one yet.

    If you wait for the perfectly future proof Receiver you will be waiting forever because technology is advancing faster than compatable equipment can be made.

    ~Maxx~

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    A Satisfied Sony Fan Since 1974!



    The OCCC Furu-Charged Sony DB 930


         
    SNY4ME
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    From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-02 18:03

    I understand completely. I'm not rying to future proof myself, but I don't want to buy something that by all rights is already out of date. Sort of, anyway. The funny thing is, that right now we have TV's that can display 1080p, but nothing that outputs 1080p. I'm sure Sony realised this when they realeased the 7100ES.

    Lyle


       
    Toli
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      Posted: 2006-03-02 19:43

    SNY4ME,

    I agree with what jehill said, that it just may work as is. Also, I am working on trying to confirm that for you. When I do, I will post the results.

    Toli


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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
    SNY4ME
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    From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-02 20:32

    Cool, any info you can supply will be awesome.

    Lyle


       
    Toli
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      Posted: 2006-03-09 17:48

    SNY4ME,

    I heard back from my friend at Oade. Here is his response:

    "Per the HDMI spec, all version of HDMI will support 1080P as far as
    transmission of data goes even though a display may not be able to
    display 1080P."
     
    So what you are hoping for is true, but of course your display will have to support a 1080p signal. Also, if you are going to purchase a 7100ES, why not give Oade a call? They have really great customer service and prices. Click here for thier web site, which has thier number as well as thier product line, which includes many Sony and Sony ES products. Good luck and I hope that this helps.

    Toli

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    SNY4ME
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    From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-09 22:32

    Wow, that is good news. I guess I've got to go shopping. Thanks a bunch.

    Lyle


       
    Toli
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      Posted: 2006-03-10 07:24

    SNY4ME,

    No problem at all. If you do purchase a new receiver, please give us a review, let us know what (7100ES?....) you get and how it compares to what you had.

    Thanks,

    Toli


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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
    SNY4ME
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    From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-10 18:13

    Son of a bitch. Oade Bros. doesn't ship to Canada. That sucks, because they have the best price I have seen.

    Too bad.

    Lyle


       
    Toli
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      Posted: 2006-03-10 22:00

    SNY4ME,

    I didn't know that they didn't ship to Canada, before I told you that, but thier prices are great. I will email my friend at Oade and see if there is anything I can do to help. I will post back if I have anything to add. It's at least worth a shot.

    Toli 


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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
    SNY4ME
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    From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-11 01:01

    Well thanks alot for all your help. I'm sure their must be a market in Canada for them. Hopefully something can be done.

    Lyle


       
    edconline

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    Joined: Dec 20, 2005
    Posts: 147
    From: Ontario, Canada

      Posted: 2006-03-11 10:58


    Lyle,
    I bought mine off ebay from BuyRiteElectronics, brand new, it comes with full US (5 Year) warranty the only catch is that you have to send it to the US for any service on your dollar but they will ship it back for free. I paid about $1700 CDN all said and done. I figured with the extra 2 years warranty, and the over $1000 savings, it was well worth the possible inconvenience IF it ever needed service. Actually the money I saved on the 7100 paid for my 9100 (same place on Ebay) I think it's gone up since i bought it but it's still a far cry from the $3000+ CDN you would pay at the Sony Store to pick it up. I see they have it on ebay now, same store but the black one. Good hunting!
    Ed
    http://cgi.ebay.ca/STR-DA7100ES-SONY-BLACK-7-1-A-V-RECEIVER-STR-DA7100_W0QQitemZ5864360504QQcategoryZ39800QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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    Toli
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    From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA

      Posted: 2006-03-16 16:42

    SNY4ME,

    I have heard back from Oade, they really won't to ship to Canada. It has something to do with the duties. But you have an option, do know someone near you, but on the U.S. side? Of course it would have to be someone that you trust.

    Toli


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    KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro


         
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