thanks for the comment Ish, The most drastic change was instantly heard in the lower end of the spectrum. The moment the speakers were placed on the "stands" I could almost feel the speakers taking back their bass. now my problem is placement before the stands I was happy with placement, now I find myself making constant adjustments which is not an easy task taking into account what has become involved to move 1 speaker a few inches, despite that minor frustration, the bass frequencies are overall much tighter, If I ever get them positioned properly i'll be on another planet.
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Posted: 2006-03-09 16:26
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On 2006-03-09 14:32, psavtech wrote: If I ever get them positioned properly i'll be on another planet.
I spent 3 months straight working daily on finding the best positioning or my front speakers. In all I invested about 400 hours in the project and I consider it time well spent because the speakers have sounded spectacular for almost 5 years and I haven't even thought of moving them so much as a fraction of an inch!
I compressed the time frame for properly positioning the speakers down because I worked on it for 4-5 hours each day. The usual time frame to find the perfect positioning for speakers is considered to be from 6 months to 1 year.
You are right though once you've found the perfect positioning of the speakers in the room the sound will put you on another planet!
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Posted: 2006-03-09 22:06
On 2006-03-09 09:08, psavtech wrote: Jittar,
Speaking of mass loading, i've been looking for some good slabs of granite/marble for my athenas. I finaly struck gold at a monument maker in the west suburbs. I got a pair of 2 1/4" thick 16X16" peices of black marble for a very nominal price. I then cut 9 holes in a 16X16 piece of MDF. Placed 9 squash balls in the holes, marble on top of the balls, make sure it's level. Put some cheap trim around the bottom so you don't see the balls, but make sure the trim isn't touching the stone. Works like a charm. It ended up costing about 150$ for the pair, but then i spent a bit more on some nice black granite trim.
psavtech,
Thanks for sharing your custom speaker stand project. It sounds easy to do and like it made a big difference. Also thanks for the tip on locating marble slabs on the cheap.
Best of luck in finding that "sweet spot" for your Athena's. I have had my AS-F2's in the same basic spot since I moved 9 months ago but I still find myself toe-ing them in and out to achieve the ultimate position.
Joe (aka BeastMaster)
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Posted: 2006-03-10 12:18
psavtech- I also chose to use Decoupling and Mass Loading onto Granite slabs for my JBL speakers.
I did this after trying Rigid Coupling with spikes and found that I prefered the sound of the speakers when Gravity coupled to the Granite slab that was Decoupled from its stand using Hybrid Sorbothane.
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