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    BoulderGuy

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    Joined: Feb 09, 2006
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      Posted: 2006-02-09 00:33

    I have a Sony surround-sound system, with wall-mounted rear speakers. I want to replace those speakers with in-wall rear speakers. I didn't see any at Sony's website. Did I miss them? If Sony doesn't sell in-wall speakers, is there a brand that is compatible with Sony speakers? Much thanks.


       


    jehill
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    Joined: Mar 13, 2003
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    From: Sewell, NJ

      Posted: 2006-02-09 16:14

    Welcome to Agoraquest!  What receiver (or HT system) are you using with the existing speakers?

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    -John

    Sony A/V System: KDL-55XBR8, BDP-S550 and AVD-LA2500PKG, consisting of AVD-C70ES Super Audio CD/DVD Receiver, 4 SS-LA500ED surround speakers, 1 SS-LAC505ED center channel speaker and 1 SA-WD200 Active Subwoofer


       
    BoulderGuy

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    Joined: Feb 09, 2006
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      Posted: 2006-02-10 12:29

    I'm using a Marantz SR5000 audio-video surround receiver. It's about 7 years old. My last Sony receiver died an early death, and I wasn't impressed with what I was reading back then about other Sony models. However, I'm still using a Sony VCR and KV-32V40 Triniton television as well as the Sony surround-sound speaker system, which includes the SA-WM20 subwoofer. My DVD player and CD player are Marantz.

    I probably just told you more than you ever wanted to know. Thanks.




       
    SPCOOLIN
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    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
    Posts: 3627
    From: Tampa Bay FL.

      Posted: 2006-02-10 13:15

    Bolderguy~

    When you say Sony surround-sound speaker package...Do you mean a speaker package that came with the Sony receiver that you were not impressed with ?

    Is this in a small room ? and therefore.....
    Is the reason you are looking for In-Walls for space concerns ?
    What is the room size ?

    The reasons I ask are:

    Some Sony surround packages have low impedance speakers that might not mate well with standard receivers such as your Marantz (or even other Sonys) and may cause undue load to the new receiver....

    If the speakers are from a such package...then you are unlikely to find any brand of speaker, In-Wall or otherwise that will be a good match to the front speakers...either tonally or in impedance (ohms)

    If the room is not very small...The SA WM20 sub (I own one) is not likely to perform very well.....and will stumble with most all of today's dynamic movie sound tracks....It only has a 8" driver with 50 watts of amp so really it should not be expected to go very low or very loud with today's movies (it's MSRP at the time was only around $100)
    However I do use mine to reinforce a single center speaker in my bedroom.

    Steve~
     

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    http://marine-ac.com/




       
    BoulderGuy

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    Joined: Feb 09, 2006
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      Posted: 2006-02-13 13:19

    The speaker package did not come with the now-defunct Sony receiver. I bought the front and center speakers first, then later added a subwoofer, and eventually the rear ones.

    They all are 8-ohm impedance.

    I e-mailed Sony and was told to call a sales rep. "Brad" told me that Sony did not sell in-wall rear speakers, but any other brand would work as long as it was 8 ohm and could take a bare-wire connection.

    The room is an open living room-kitchen setup, measuring about 16 feet by 16 feet, with a vaulted ceiling (so no in-ceiling speakers).
     
    I want to replace the existing Sony wall-mounted speakers because I've whacked my head on them too many times; they get dusty quickly, and I just don't like how they look hanging from the wall. I want a cleaner, more concealed look

    Yesterday, I bought a pair of in-wall Accurian speakers from Radio Shack. But when I opened a box and read the installation instructions, I learned there must at least 5 1/2 inches of clearance behind the wall. No way with my place; the interior walls are studded with 2x4s (or more like 1 1/2 x 3 1/2. So much for truly dimensional lumber, eh?).

    So, I'll be returning the Accurian speakers and getting its 6.5-inch ceiling speaker, I guess. I've been told that in-ceiling speakers work fine as in-wall ones.

    Should rear in-wall speakers have a woofer? The Accurians I bought do, but that seemed more audio "firepower" than necessary, considering I have front speakers with woofers, plus the subwoofer.

    Your help is most appreciated. 


       
    SPCOOLIN
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    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
    Posts: 3627
    From: Tampa Bay FL.

      Posted: 2006-02-13 14:10






    On 2006-02-13 13:19, BoulderGuy wrote:

    They all are 8-ohm impedance.

    The room is an open living room-kitchen setup, measuring about 16 feet by 16 feet, with a vaulted ceiling (so no in-ceiling speakers).
     
    Yesterday, I bought a pair of in-wall Accurian speakers from Radio Shack. But when I opened a box and read the installation instructions, I learned there must at least 5 1/2 inches of clearance behind the wall. No way with my place; the interior walls are studded with 2x4s (or more like 1 1/2 x 3 1/2. So much for truly dimensional lumber, eh?).

    So, I'll be returning the Accurian speakers and getting its 6.5-inch ceiling speaker, I guess. I've been told that in-ceiling speakers work fine as in-wall ones.

    Should rear in-wall speakers have a woofer? The Accurians I bought do, but that seemed more audio "firepower" than necessary, considering I have front speakers with woofers, plus the subwoofer.

    Your help is most appreciated. 


    Bolderguy~

    That is a pretty large space, and not knowing how critical you are in your listening I only mention the following:

    In wall speakers are Generally (not always, as some can be very expensive) considered a compromise...and In-Ceiling is considered worse due to the lack of directionality (they fire straight down)

    You will also find that the more expensive In-Walls will have an enclosure that comes with them...The speaker designer has some control over the Tonal quality of the speaker if they can also design an enclosure to match.

    Cutting a hole in drywall and installing a speaker without an enclosure can be somewhat of a crap shoot as you might imagine...similar to what we used to do in our our "old clunkers" when we were younger....sometimes it works out...and sometimes not.

    As far as Woofers.....Again your listening taste.....but I know from my experience the SA WM20 sub will not handle the task you are intending (in that size room...at least for my taste) and a lot of floor standing speakers will out perform that sub, so any woofage that you can get would be beneficial unless you plan on upgrading subwoofers.

    Is the Marantz a DD 5.1/DTS receiver or just Dolby Pro Logic ?
    You said it was older, and most PL receivers had less power in the surround channels than they had for L/C/R which could also affect your speaker choice in regard to efficiency ratings.... 

    Steve~

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    Spcoolin's Web Site:

    http://marine-ac.com/




       
    lemoncadillac
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    Rank: Sony Fanatic


    Joined: Sep 23, 2005
    Posts: 380
    From: Minneapolis,MN. USA

      Posted: 2006-02-14 19:25

    Klipsch has a large selection of in wall speakers. I have a set of side Klipsch. Also look at Niles.
    Thanks
    Lemon


         
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