The player will play the layer you have selected. It will be independant of the connections. If you play the SA-CD layer and you have your receiver set to the digital input you will get silence.
I've had a chance to take the lids off of the 775 and 975 and take photos but I can't seem to be able to upload them.
The players have more simularities then differences. The 975V does have a beefier power supply, suggesting that they are separate for the video and audio sections.
The chassis are very simular except the 975V has a metal face plate.
The RCA jacks are gold plated on the 975V.
As far as features go the 975V allows you to shut off the video section and the FL display. Not sure if the 775V does this, can anyone confirm?
My main interest in this player is the internal DD/DTS decoding which sounds quite good, very simular to the 775V I would imagine. And the HDMI video output. Have not been able to test it, still waiting for a HDMI/DVI cable to arrive. I use a 57" CRT based RPTV so not sure if there will be any benefit. Using component video out I would say it is at least the equal to my RDR-GX7.
I had a chance to watch Shrek 2 this evening on the 975. All I can say is awesome. Great picture really vibrant and punchy. Anxious to see how the HDMI output will look. Baseballgod, JamisonBWolsh and DoobieWah I share your enthusiasm for the PQ.
Sound quality from the internal decoder and Dac was excellent. The real benefit of these DVD players that include SA-CD and or DVD-A is how good they can sound using the internal decoder and sending the signal to receiver/preamp in the analog domain. The Dacs and analog output stage is usually a few steps above the norm.
I'm really impressed. You 775V owners out there know what I'm talking about.
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Posts: 9156
From: Chicago,IL, USA
Posted: 2004-11-06 16:18
rb,
Thanks for the review of the 975. Coming from you it is a valued opinion. Did you notice any delay on the layer change while watching DVD's? It will be interesting to hear if the HDMI/DVI cable tweaks the picture up another notch in PQ. Would love to see the pictures, last time I checked the picture upload was working but if your having a problem on Agoraquest I would be happy to host them for you.
Hey guys I have read all the 7 pages of this post and based on what I read and also the cnet review I found on the DVP-975V I'm leaning toward going with the DVP-NS775V instead.The first reason being that the price difference between to the two dvd players the DVP-NS775V is going for $129 at my local best buy here in San Diego and the cheapest that I found the DVP-NS975V for on the internet was $240The second reason being that on the cnet review for DVP-NS975 they didnt recommend the DVP-NS975 for use with Direct View CRT TV's.Here what they had to say: "Overall, we recommend avoiding upscaling players if you have a CRT-based HDTV, unless the set demonstrates a marked improvement in video quality over the digital jack".This was on page 4 of the review for the DVP-NS975V on cnet.Overall cnet gave it a 8.0 very good and reviewed buy cnet editor David Katzmaier.Sorry if I sound like a cnet fanboy.So my conclusion is that if you have a LCD or plasma or rear projection LCD then it may be worth spending a about a hundred more and get the DVP-NS975 and get a HDMI DVI cable.But if your like me and have CRT then to me the logical and best dvd player to get is the DVP-NS775V.I recently just got my new KD-34XBR960 and right now I'm just using my sony PS2 to watch DVD movies and right now just isnt cuting it with my great CRT.
I have not yet had a chance to check out the HDMI connection on my CRT based TV. If the PQ is at least the equal of the component connection I'll be happy. I've run out of component video inputs. My pre/pro has 2, my TV has 2, X-Box, PS2, DVD recorder, HD cable all use component inputs. I will need a DVI switcher so I can use DVI from the cable box.
----------------- rb
I listen to music in StereO
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Joined: May 06, 2004
Posts: 95
From: West Coast, USA
Posted: 2004-11-07 01:07
rb:
I appreciate your comments. With what you have said, I'm out the door looking for a 975!! I'll post results later (with fingers crossed that there will be no locking....I hope I just went through a bad batch of 775s!!)
This thread has been great! I appreciate all of the comments/input from members.
Fellas I have to tell you that I'm blown away by the 975V. There seems to be this trend on some internet sites where every year DVD players are reviewed by having them put under the micoscope. Every possible aspect of the player is examined and measured. With out fail there is always some measurement in which the vast majority of player's fail. It's almost like people expect perfection from them. Guess what it's not going to happen. That's why the manufacturers release a new model every year. What these reviews fail to convey is just how well they may perform in an actual home theater environment. These tests include things that I don't even know what they mean. To make a purchasing decision based on these ridiculous measurements seems really weird to me. All I know is after reading these reviews I come away not having a clue as to how a player might actually sound or look at home. I do read these reviews out of interest but to be honest I find them meaningless.
I must admit that after taking off the cover of the 775V and 975V I was not expecting very much. There really is nothing to them. All the major circuits share one board, they weigh in at five lbs. They didn't exactly inspire confidence. I was totally wrong and should not have judged a book by it's cover.
I have had a chance over this weekend to put the 975V through it's paces and have come away totally impressed both visually and much to my shock sonically. The picture is outstanding. It's dynamic, vibrant and punchy. Is it going to fail some of these tests and measurements?, with out a doubt, does it matter?, not in the least. It has the best PQ that I have had in my home using my KP57WS500. I currently own a Sony RDR-GX7 and a Cambridge Audio AZUR 540D. Past players include a Technics DVD-A10 and a Sony DVPNS999ES. It beats them all hands down. Is that measurable? Who cares?, it's what I see on my screen that matters. How much I enjoy watching it is what is most important to me. If it passes tests like below black, 2-2 cadence, etc, etc, blah, blah , blah does not concern me in the slightest. Like I said earlier they all fail some aspects of these tests. I read on these forums all the time where people won't buy a particular machine because they failed in one test or another so they wait for the next years model again expecting perfection.
All I can say is that visually I'm totally happy with the 975V. Watching movies with it is a real treat.
I have built my audio system to take advantage of a DVD player that has internal decoding for DD/DTS. I run full range speakers on every channel that allows me to not have to use any kind of bass management. I have a pure analog signal path from the DVD player to my amp. In my experience I have always found that to sound better than to have the signal digitally processed inside a receiver//pre/pro. The reason that Sony receivers such as the DA3ES/DA4ES/DA5ES/DA7ES has impressed me so much is the way handle analog signals. You can shut off the video and digital circuits while in the analog direct mode. That's when they sound their best. If I did not have the need to digitally process the signal from my X-Box, PS-2 and Digital cable box I would use an all analog multi channel preamp.
My Audio Refinement pre/pro was chosen because no other unit on the market at or near it's price is as musical or has a better analog direct mode. It's currently at the Parts Connexion getting the analog input and output stages completely upgraded/modded. I have been using a NAD T750 analog 5.1 ready receiver which they built to be used with their DVD player from a few years ago that had internal DD/DTS decoding to test the 975V. It has the qualities of their 2 channel preamps which has always been a music first approach. In other words I have not yet heard the 975V at it best yet I'm totally impressed with how it sounds.
I watched a couple of concert DVD's (Depeche Modene Night In Paris;Peter Gabriel:Growing Up Live) and was totally involved with the music this player produced. I find it hard enough to get these compression schemes like DD/DTS to sound musical but the 975V really delivered the goods.
I next tried some multi channel SA-CD's and truth be told I was not expecting much. Man was I wrong. To say that I was impressed would be an understatement. The qaulities that I have found missing from other Sony SA-CD players that I haved owned like the SCDC555ES and DVPNS999ES was there in abundance.
Qualities like rythym, pace and timing. Listening to discs like Godsmack:The Other Side on multi channel SA-CD was really fun. The 975V has the qualities that I mentioned and the drive to let the music come through. I have not heard another Sony DVD player that I thought was musical and would allow me to connect with music emotionally. It's a total blast to listen to.
I don't know how they did it but I believe Sony has a real winner with the 975V. It sells for $500 in Canada and think it's worth every penny. For how well it performs I think it's a bargain. If the 775V even comes close to it then it's a steal.
Is there better DVD players on the market?, for sure, will they fail some of these silly tests, with out a doubt, does it matter?, I don't think so. My advise, go out and get yourself a 775V/975V and forget about the reviews with their measurements that you are going to read else where. It performs beyond my high expectations and I have not even heard it at its best. I can hardly wait to get my pre/pro back so I can really put it to the test.
Thanks for the great post! You have put my mind at ease, as I have a 975 on order. I am very excited now to put it through some paces this next weekend! Thanks for the effort of posting those pics too, it is remarkable how simplistic they seem from just those views.
I agree with you also on some of those tests, at some point you have to sit back and say "does this make me say 'Wow?'" or not. It definitely sounds as though this unit has satisfied your 'wow' factor!
Joined: Feb 28, 2003
Posts: 9156
From: Chicago,IL, USA
Posted: 2004-11-07 21:34
rb,
Can't thank you enough for the complete review. I think a few of us are almost excited as you just by reading about your listening and watching experiences. I am curious to know if you tried either of the digital (coax/optical) outputs or have you tested only with the 5.1 analog outs? I think your sterling review will tip the scales for anyone who is on the fencepost of purchasing the 975V including myself. Your right, there you have to look for the differences between the 775 and the 975, the most obvious is the extra S-Video output and HDMI output on the 975. Thanks for sharing your experience and pictures with us.
Joined: May 06, 2004
Posts: 95
From: West Coast, USA
Posted: 2004-11-08 00:00
rb:
Great review. Thank-you for all of the great input. Mine's on order, now. Can't wait to see the results!
The Doob
PS: jttar- Thnx for the photos!
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ne Night In Paris;Peter Gabriel:Growing Up Live) and was totally involved with the music this player produced. I find it hard enough to get these compression schemes like DD/DTS to sound musical but the 975V really delivered the goods.
