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MonkeyMoo7
Rank: Sony Buff
Joined: Nov 19, 2003
Posts: 22
From: Boston
 |  Posted: 2003-12-10 08:12
I recently bought the STR-DA4ES, I have a standard cable box, Toshiba DVD, and a 27" TV. I am fed up with the DA4ES's remote as it's very confusing. I am looking for some suggestions as to what a suitable universal remote would be. I have looked at the RM-AV3000, but have heard mixed reviews. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time.
 
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Toli
Moderator
Premium Member
Rank: Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
 | Posted: 2003-12-10 08:35
From what I've read the RMAV3000 seems to work well when used with all Sony components, but sometimes has trouble with some functions of non-Sony components. This is from what I've read, I have no hands on experience with this unit.
I have used the RM-LP211 and thought it was a really cool remote and original remotes tend to control all fubctions where as universals don't always. If I may ask what is confusing with the RM-LP211, I also have the manual?
- Toli
KF50WE610, STRDA7ES, SAT HD200, DVP-NS715P; KLIPSCH KSF 10.5(2),
KSF-S5(2), KSF-C5, KSW 15, XBOX
[ This message was edited by: Toli on 2003-12-10 08:44 ]
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rkkwan
Rank: Ultimate Sony Reviewer
Joined: Aug 23, 2002
Posts: 2623
From: Houston, TX
 | Posted: 2003-12-10 09:25
The most popular and well-reviewed universal remote is the Theater Master MX-500. Not too expensive these days.
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SCD-C222ES, Panasonic DVD-CP72, Rotel RCD-961
B&W 601/2s3, Yamaha RX-V1300, HSU Research VTF-2
Samsung TXM2796HF & SIR-T151
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conorb
Rank: Sony Enthusiant
Joined: Nov 09, 2003
Posts: 35
From: USA
 | Posted: 2003-12-10 13:31
I recently purchased a Sony RM-AV3000 remote and it works very well for my application. I didn't have any problem programming it to work with my non-Sony equipment and overall I replaced 7 remotes with it.
The manual is really bad, but you can overcome that.
There are definitely two camps of learning remotes; those with touch screens and those with hard buttons. They both have their pros and cons - you need to figure out what works best for you.
The remote lists for $199.00 but I got it for $109 from B&H Photo Video. You can find it cheaper but B&H is reputable.
conorb
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slobeatz
Rank: Sony Addict
Joined: May 09, 2003
Posts: 223
From:
 | Posted: 2003-12-10 17:56
I had the av3000, but actually decided to use the remote that came with the 4ES instead. The reason for this being that I was getting tired of constantly having to switch between component buttons. If I was watching a movie, I would have to press Amp to turn up the amp, then DVD to use the functions of the DVD player. You can set it up to have the volume control for the amp at all times, but then if you just want to watch TV, the remote won't turn the volume up for the TV. Needless to say, I like the fact that the 4ES's remote allows me to do all the DVD functions, the volume on the receiver and the channel buttons, volume, etc for the television, without having to constantly change what component it is controlling. Just my opinion.
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Sony STR-DA4ES, DVP-NS999ES, SCD-C222ES, DVP-NS400D, JBL: S310 II, N28 II(2 pair),SCenter II, S120PII; Infocus X1, Toshiba 27A41, Panamax 4300.
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jehill
Premium Member
Rank: Sony Senior Advisor
Joined: Mar 13, 2003
Posts: 13788
From: Sewell, NJ
 | Posted: 2003-12-10 19:05
I am very satisfied with the RM-AV3000 remote, although I must admit, the need to press different component buttons can be problematic, mostly when my wife is using the remote. I solved one of slobeatz's concerns my making the decision to turn on the entire system anytime that we watch TV. I use "TV" to control the TV, "STB" to control my Comcast digital cable box, "DVD" to control most of my AVD-C70ES's functions and "AMP" to control the AVD-C70ES's tuner.
Slobeatz,
Don't you have to select your DVD player on your 4ES remote before you can control it?
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Sony A/V System: KDL-55XBR8, BDP-S550, AVD-C700ES Super Audio CD/DVD Receiver, 4 SS-LA500ED surround speakers, 1 SS-LAC505ED center channel speaker and 1 SA-WD200 Active Subwoofer
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Tiny_Turtle
Rank: Sony Legend
Joined: Oct 09, 2002
Posts: 1116
From: Stockholm, Sweden
 | Posted: 2003-12-11 06:28
I'm with Ray (rkkwan) on this one. The Theater Master MX-500 is highly acclaimed.
/Tiny Remoto
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slobeatz
Rank: Sony Addict
Joined: May 09, 2003
Posts: 223
From:
| Posted: 2003-12-11 07:22
Quote:
| Slobeatz,
Don't you have to select your DVD player on your 4ES remote before you can control it? |
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I have to select DVD on the remote, but the remote will still control, the AMP and the TV while I have it selected to DVD.
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Sony STR-DA4ES, DVP-NS999ES, SCD-C222ES, DVP-NS400D, JBL: S310 II, N28 II(2 pair),SCenter II, S120PII; Infocus X1, Toshiba 27A41, Panamax 4300.
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ajs75
Rank: Sony Devotee
Joined: Aug 28, 2003
Posts: 56
From: Chicago
 | Posted: 2003-12-11 08:52
I was using the RM-AV3000 and dealing with all of the button pushing well enough until I bought my 7ES receiver. Now I use its remote - RM-TP1.
I'll once again state my standard complaint about remotes: None that I have tried can handle Tivo functions properly. I am specifically referring to the multi-tap functions on a Tivo remote like fast-forward and reverse, info, etc.
I have though seriously about trying a Harmony in the past, but the RM-TP1+Tivo remote combination is working well for me now.
Aron
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Sony: STR-DA7ES, CDP-CA70ES
Samsung: HL-P5685W, DVD-HD950
B&W: DM602 S3, LCR60 S3, DM601 S3, ASW650
Motorola: DCT-6412
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Tiny_Turtle
Rank: Sony Legend
Joined: Oct 09, 2002
Posts: 1116
From: Stockholm, Sweden
| Posted: 2003-12-11 09:43
And in addition to Aron's post I'd like to add that the RM-TP1 isn't sold separately in the U.S. but is available in other parts of the world (which could probably ship to the U.S.)
Tiny Addendum
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bigbubbabulldog
Rank: Sony Fan
Joined: Dec 06, 2003
Posts: 2
From: Chicago
|  Posted: 2003-12-11 10:43
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On 2003-12-10 17:56, slobeatz wrote:
I had the av3000, but actually decided to use the remote that came with the 4ES instead. The reason for this being that I was getting tired of constantly having to switch between component buttons. If I was watching a movie, I would have to press Amp to turn up the amp, then DVD to use the functions of the DVD player. You can set it up to have the volume control for the amp at all times, but then if you just want to watch TV, the remote won't turn the volume up for the TV. Needless to say, I like the fact that the 4ES's remote allows me to do all the DVD functions, the volume on the receiver and the channel buttons, volume, etc for the television, without having to constantly change what component it is controlling. Just my opinion.
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Actually, if you read the manual, you'd find out that you can select each hard button and give it a specific fucntion for EACH COMPONENT!!! My 3000 will turn the volume up on my Yamaha RV-1103 no matter WHICH component is selected, that's the way I set it up. My wife really loves the remote because it got rid of the 6 other ones we had. We just upgraded to Tivo, so we are now using two remotes, but I like the Tivo remote. The only problem we have had with the Sony, is that sometimes it will not work properly with our 30" Samsung WS HDTV. But other than that, the light up feature, and macros make it one of the best things we've bought for the theater! Pick one up, READ THE MANUAL, and enjoy! 
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slobeatz
Rank: Sony Addict
Joined: May 09, 2003
Posts: 223
From:
| Posted: 2003-12-11 11:43
Quote:
| My 3000 will turn the volume up on my Yamaha RV-1103 no matter WHICH component is selected, that's the way I set it up. |
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so if you are using the TV function on the remote, it turns the television's volume up, or just the amps? If just the amp, can you still set it up to do the TV volume when you have it set to TV. The thing was that I never used my receiver when I was just watching television. I'm not saying it's a bad remote, I just like the one I use now better.
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Sony STR-DA4ES, DVP-NS999ES, SCD-C222ES, DVP-NS400D, JBL: S310 II, N28 II(2 pair),SCenter II, S120PII; Infocus X1, Toshiba 27A41, Panamax 4300.
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piwozniak
Rank: Sony Devotee
Joined: Sep 23, 2003
Posts: 80
From: Toronto
| Posted: 2003-12-12 07:47
Hi i have both RM-AV2000 (was it 2000?, previous generation), and standard remote which came with 4ES, and actually i like 4ES' remote better.
AV-2000/3000, for sure give you more options, and can learn to operate any component, but when you get used to 4ES, it's just more convenient. Unfortunately RM-LJ211 which shipped with 4ES, is one way only, but you can buy RM-LJ312 (this one ships with 5000ES), which looks to have identical functions, while being 2-way.
i just picked up one on eBay for $35.
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Tiny_Turtle
Rank: Sony Legend
Joined: Oct 09, 2002
Posts: 1116
From: Stockholm, Sweden
| Posted: 2003-12-12 08:09
Przemek,
It was 2000.
I would love to have a LJ312, but my ol' DB930 hasn't got OSD which is why I've only gotten myself a LJ304. I don't know the menu system of th LJ312, but do you think it'd be useable without the OSD part?
/Tiny Upgrade for me?
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duncan
Rank: Sony Legend
Joined: Jul 26, 2002
Posts: 964
From: UK
 | Posted: 2003-12-12 09:52
Hi, http://www.remotecentral.com/ is a really good resource for reviews and tech specs of loads of remotes.
I personally like the philips pronto and marantz ranges (both pretty much the same product) they are fully programmable removing the problem of switching components to contol different things. The older models still do a really good job and can be found on ebay for resonable money.
Duncan
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Sony: DVP-NS930V, STR-DB2000QS, CDP-XB930, SLV-X9, DCR-PC105E, DSC-T200, PS3 , NWZ-A829K, NWS 205. Other: Hitachi 42” Plasma, Samsung 40" LCD, SkyHD, Wii, Xbox 360 Speakers: KEF 2005.2
 
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