I don't know if anyone still looks at this thread...but I have a dilema on my hands.
I bought the SS-K30ed speakers from Circuit City, as described above. I've been really happy with them at home, matched with the K series center speaker.
However, I just wandered in to a high-end stereo store in town, and to my surprise they had the SS-X30s sitting on a shelf. I listened to them, and they are pretty remarkable--but it's hard to compare them with what I have at home, obviously, the listening environment being very different. The most remarkable part, though, is that the SS-X30s were on sale for only $130 each!
So, here's the question: do I return the SS-Ks, and pick up the SS-Xs? It is certainly tempting, for that price. However, I'd be stuck with the SS-K center speaker, since the high end shop doesn't sell the SS-X center, and, as others here can attest, the SS-Xs hard to find at all in the US. So the speakers wouldn't be perfectly matched.
Has anyone here listened to both the SS-Xs and SS-Ks side-by-side? Are the Xs really that much better?
The better my system has become, more detailed, higher resolution etc etc the more I have come to realize that conventional center channel speakers are not a perfect match for the main speakers anyway. The only way to have a perfect match would be to have identical speakers all around. I think the SSK center channel speaker would be a close enough match to the SSX30's.
As good as the SSK series are they are not in the same league as the SSX's. I have heard the SSX's extensively and I currently hear the SSK's daily. If it was me I would grab the SSX30's before they were gone. The price sounds great.
I guess I would have to disagree, both speakers have the same drivers! The only real difference is the cabinet style, I also have listened to both speakers and there is not that much of a difference. Not to flame rb, but listening to him it sounds like SSX's are high-end speakers, and honestly that's not the case. They just like the SSK's are a good bang for you buck speaker. Now if you don't mind mismatching speakers, SSX's will work great and save you money, but I would not make the move because they are superior. I would also take in to consideration that they don't make SSX's anymore, and if you really love the sound of them it might be hard to get another pair if you wanted to have that type of setup. Again it’s just my .02 cents…….fficeffice" />>>
I guess I would have to disagree, both speakers have the same drivers! The only real difference is the cabinet style, I also have listened to both speakers and there is not that much of a difference. Not to flame rb, but listening to him it sounds like SSX's are high-end speakers, and honestly that's not the case. They just like the SSK's are a good bang for you buck speaker. Now if you don't mind mismatching speakers, SSX's will work great and save you money, but I would not make the move because they are superior. I would also take in to consideration that they don't make SSX's anymore, and if you really love the sound of them it might be hard to get another pair if you wanted to have that type of setup. Again it’s just my .02 cents…….fficeffice" />>>
Mech--It's okay to disagree actually it makes for healthy discussion, but there is something that I would like to share.
The SSX series is a high end product, do not sell them short because they come from Sony. I have the benefit of working in the industry and also having a friend that owns a high end audio shop here in Calgary. That allows me the chance to demo products in my home and to be able to go to his shop and play.
I have listened to the SSX's with a vast selection of electronics and they never fail to amaze me especially at the price that they sold for. Right now I use a Blue Circle BC32 power amp which is rated as one of the most musical multi-channel amps on the market and the SSX70ED's hold up their end of the bargain beautifully. The best part is that with my obsession with improving my AV system upgrading my speakers does not even appear on the map. Everytime I upgrade something upstream the speakers sound better and better.
Even though the drivers may be the same two of the components that really determine how a speaker sounds are the cabinet and crossover. The more rigid a cabinet the less colored a speaker will sound. The size and quailty of the components used in the SSX series is way beyond what is used in the SSK's. The crossover components will determine the final voicing of the speaker.
I use my speakers without the grilles so the Sony name is not visable and when people hear my system their jaws drop when I tell them the speakers are made by Sony, when they find out how much they cost their jaws hit the floor.
I can positively say that they are a true "High End" speaker because they truly give me a "High End" sound.
----------------- rb
I listen to music in StereO
[ This message was edited by:
----------------- rb
I listen to music in StereO on 2004-08-25 16:15 ]
[ This message was edited by: rb on 2004-08-25 16:16 ]
The speakers are incredible value, which should not be confused with not being "high end". I also own the SSX70ED's and ended up purchasing them because they blow away any speaker I had previously auditioned (excluding some $115,000 Dynaudio's). I sold HT gear for 6 years, and the X70s outperform and sounded much "better" than any PSB (including the Stratus series), Energy (Including Veritas), Mission (Including 75 series), Totem, Celestion, Jamo, Atlantic, Definitive, Athena, Mirage.... etc... etc.... Of course, my "better" may not be "better" to you.
I have heard some people refer to Nuance speakers as "High end" because they are expensive. Yes, they are "high end", and that only referrs to how HIGH up your rear END the salesman got when he/she sold these to you.
I do not own the SSX's but I do own some SSK's, but I will still have to disagree with you. Each of these speakers sound great and I am a total advocate of either model and in no way do I diss SONY speakers, but they are not high end. While they have some of the benefits of great speakers and again are excellent for the money I am not kidding myself into thinking they are Martin Logan’s.
I think another term is to clarify what you think of as high end. I will say that I don't consider any of the speakers you would see at circuit city or best buy to be high end.
Hate to start out my first post with a question but I have thought about this since I first read this thread.I read somewhere that the SSX series is also 4 ohm instead of 8 ohm like the SSKs.If this is true what does Sony think you will use them with?All the Sony ES receivers of recent years recommend a 4 ohm load on the front two channels only.I thought I had read a post on here that the new digital receivers don't like a four ohm load at all.Since Sony doesn't make separate power amps anymore what else besides the ES receivers do they plan on you using? .................Sony KV32HV600,STR-DA5ES,SEQ-711,TC-k620,MDS-JA20ES,SCD-C222ES,DVP-S7700,SLV-750HF.Parasound HCA-855A.Denon DVD-1600.NHT Super ones(main) super center,Super Zeros(rear),SW2PI.Sony STR-DA90ESG bedroom.
On 2004-08-25 20:24, AG138 wrote: Hate to start out my first post with a question but I have thought about this since I first read this thread.I read somewhere that the SSX series is also 4 ohm instead of 8 ohm like the SSKs.If this is true what does Sony think you will use them with?All the Sony ES receivers of recent years recommend a 4 ohm load on the front two channels only.I thought I had read a post on here that the new digital receivers don't like a four ohm load at all.Since Sony doesn't make separate power amps anymore what else besides the ES receivers do they plan on you using? .................Sony KV32HV600,STR-DA5ES,SEQ-711,TC-k620,MDS-JA20ES,SCD-C222ES,DVP-S7700,SLV-750HF.Parasound HCA-855A.Denon DVD-1600.NHT Super ones(main) super center,Super Zeros(rear),SW2PI.Sony STR-DA90ESG bedroom.
Hello,
Welcome! As you can see this topic has been on going and there have some excellent points and information, but to answer your question I really don't know how the ES line reacts to 4ohm speakers. I do know that 4ohm seems to be less popular then 8ohm for sure.
Joined: Mar 13, 2003
Posts: 13820
From: Sewell, NJ
Posted: 2004-08-26 13:21
The STR-DA2000ES, STR-DA3000ES, STR-DA5000ES and STR-DA9000ES are all designed to accomodate a 4-16 ohm speaker load. With the exception of the STR-DA9000ES, the 4 ohm power rating is less than the 8 ohm power rating. The standard speaker impedance for home audio systems has been 8 ohms for many years in the USA. This is why most people in the USA use 8 ohm speakers.
----------------- -John
Sony A/V System: KDL-55XBR8, BDP-S550, AVD-C700ES Super Audio CD/DVD Receiver, 4 SS-LA500ED surround speakers, 1 SS-LAC505ED center channel speaker and 1 SA-WD200 Active Subwoofer
I visited my Sony dealer last week to have a look at, and listen to the SA-WX900 sub, and the SSX70 speakers etc, and was somewhat dismayed to find that not only the SSX90ED's, but now the SSX70ED's etc, are all discontinued here in OZ.
We compared them to the 'replacement'? SSK series, and no doubt about it, the SSX series had a comfortable edge in clarity, speed and transient reponse, detail, lack of upper bass box boom/colouration etc over the K series.
However, despite the seeming demise of what otherwise seems to be a superb VFM speaker with the SSX range, my dealer friend opinioned that there would likely be a replacement for the SSX range, as in his opinion the K series didnt really cut it as suitable speakers re performance matchng for the likes of the top of the range ES series receivers etc.
Only his opinion of course, but I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumours, or has knowledge of a new line of forthcoming speakers to replace the SSX range?
Sony being Sony, this could be, well, digital, or just about anything really.
But they should be good!
Hopefully someone out there will know something they could share!
So they are like a private company they makes their very nice products with their own designs and sell for less while using the same or maybe better quality materials than other leading companies??
There is no replacement for the SSX series in the forseeable future in Canada. Perhaps next year.
----------------- rb
I listen to music in StereO
This topic thread spans 15 pages - You are currently on page 9 NEXT>> (1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 )
Advance
Features
All logos and information in this site are property of their respective owner. The
comments are property of their posters.
This website www.agoraquest.com, Claudio Meira and Agoraquest, LLC is not tided in any form to the Sony Corporation
(www.sony.com). This unoffical website is just place where Sony products are reviewed among the general public. Sony is a registered
of Sony, Inc. "PlayStation", "PlayStation2", the PlayStation "PS" logo, and all associated logos/graphics.
"Agoraquest, LLC" and "agoraquest.com" are associated exclusively with agoraquest.com, and are NOT associated in ANY way with Sony
Electronics, Inc. To view the privacy policy, please click here and to view the terms of use,
please click here. If you have any further questions, please contact using our online form.
Posted: 2004-08-23 20:40
ffice" />
Posted: 2004-08-25 20:24
