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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
 |  Posted: 2007-07-19 16:56
I think I will be buying a Sony dvpns9100es, are there any known isssues?
Is the layer change quicker, and does it do "blacker than black "?
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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
| Posted: 2007-07-22 19:26
please can I have some imput?
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OPCAR
Sonyphile
Joined: Dec 23, 2006
Posts: 442
From: Belgrade, Serbia - Europe
 | Posted: 2007-07-22 20:14
Hi Fanboyz.
I own DVP-NS9100ES and I can tell you that it's hell of a player!
You can say that it's high-end CD/SACD player with added first-class DVD playback and i.Link connectivity.(especially if you have i.Link compatible receiver)
I don't know of any issues re this player.
Mine 9100ES changes layers very fast, does "blacker than black ", and does excellent upscalling of Standard Definition DVDs.
What do you need more?
Danijel
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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
| Posted: 2007-07-22 22:51
im buying one then.
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 25772
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
 | Posted: 2007-07-23 01:26
fanboyz- I am sure that you will find the NS9100ES is a fantastic Player for both Audio and Video just like so many of the other NS9100ES owners here at Agoraquest who like Danijel have nothing but praise for its capabilities.
~Maxx~
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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
| Posted: 2007-07-25 21:47
so, there arnt lockups and errors? its basically a 10 for 10?
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OPCAR
Sonyphile
Joined: Dec 23, 2006
Posts: 442
From: Belgrade, Serbia - Europe
| Posted: 2007-07-27 19:34
On 2007-07-25 21:47, fanboyz wrote:
so, there arnt lockups and errors? its basically a 10 for 10?
I don't have any issues with my 9100ES, but maybe others have.
On 2006-09-24 00:14, Yushiro wrote:
Cmnore,
Sorry to hear that you are having troubles with your DVP-NS3100ES! I have the DVP-NS9100ES which I believe I had similar troubles with, so I did the same as you, I came to Agoraquest to ask the seniors for help and I got it. Below is a link to the thread I stared about my troubles with my 9100. If the link doesn't work, please cut and paste. The 9100 is very quirky but you really can't beat it's audio or video performance IMHO. Anyway I hope this helps!
http://agoraquest.com/viewtopic.php?topic=24100&forum=51
Yushiro
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 25772
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2007-07-28 15:51
The DVP NS9100ES is quite a machine isn't it?
~Maxx~
A Satisfied Sony Fan Since 1974!
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[ This message was edited by: Maxxwire on 2007-08-19 01:45 ]
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SNY4ME
Sony Legend
Joined: Nov 13, 2005
Posts: 876
From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
| Posted: 2007-07-28 16:18
I'll give it a 9.9 out of 10 for sure.
I'll deduct the .1 because unlike my 7100ES, when you dim the display completely it doesn't turn on automatically when you use a button.
Other than that, all good. Not a single issue at all.
Lyle
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Sony - DA7100ES, NS9100ES, BDP-S1, K90ED(2), K30ED(2), CNK10ED(1), X700(2), MF650H(2); Logitech - Harmony 890, Pure AV - PF60
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OPCAR
Sonyphile
Joined: Dec 23, 2006
Posts: 442
From: Belgrade, Serbia - Europe
| Posted: 2007-07-29 06:33
On 2007-07-28 16:18, SNY4ME wrote:
I'll deduct the .1 because unlike my 7100ES, when you dim the display completely it doesn't turn on automatically when you use a button.
Lyle
Lyle -That's because display on the player goes off completely, unlike on the receiver, where display goes to stand-by.
I have my old DVP-NS900V who have FL ON/OFF switch on remote, so I learned my DA7100ES's remote that command and it works for my NS9100ES, so I presume it's universal for Sony dvd players. This way you can have FL ON/OFF switch for your NS9100ES on your remote.
Hope this helps.
Danijel
[ This message was edited by: OPCAR on 2007-07-29 06:37 ]
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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
| Posted: 2007-08-18 20:59
got my black 9100es, she is the best DVD drive in human creation.
I am speechless in its perfection.
-Remote kind of blows though, I keep thinking the joystick is an enter key. 
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KDS60A3000, STR-DG1000, DVPNS9100ES, BDP-S1, PS3, SSCN55OH, SSM65OH (x2), SSCN35OH (x4), SAW 250 watt sub.
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David_S
Sonyphile
Joined: Aug 03, 2004
Posts: 769
From: BC, Canada
 | Posted: 2007-08-18 23:44
On 2007-08-18 20:59, fanboyz wrote:
got my black 9100es, she is the best DVD drive in human creation.
I am speechless in its perfection.
-Remote kind of blows though, I keep thinking the joystick is an enter key.
It is an enter key. Check page 12 of the 9100ES user manual. The remote for the NS999ES has the same style joystick which also doubles as an enter key.
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RM- AV3000 AX1400 (2)AX4000
SDP-EP9ES, ST-S730ES
STR- DA4ES DA3100ES (2)DA5700ES (2)GX10ES
DVP- (3)NS999ES NS3100ES CX777ES
CDP-X303ES, CDP-M555ES
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
 | Posted: 2007-10-15 01:52
Has anyone tried to update the NS9100ES with the new Firmware from SONY...it is supposed to make it more compatible with newer TV's via HDMI...
Yes the joystick....ain't that nice!
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
 | Posted: 2007-10-15 07:09
On 2007-10-15 01:52, tcgalo wrote:
...it is supposed to make it more compatible with newer TV's via HDMI...
tcgalo,
Yes, but to be specific, it addresses two issues:
- Resolves an issue where certain televisions that support the new xvYCC color feature (x.v.Color™), may show no video and/or play no audio when connected to the DVD player using HDMI™ connections. This may occur with televisions manufactured by Sony or by other manufacturers.
NOTE:This issue occurs only when using the DVD player as the source device for the program being viewed on the television. Audio and video viewed from other sources, or via connections other than HDMI, are unaffected by this issue. This is an HDMI error found within the DVD player and is not a problem with the television’s HDMI connection.
- improves playback compatibility with certain DVD discs.
Toli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-10-22 19:42
I finally got the software from sony and the NS updated without a hitch...I guess I was not burning my software right. am happy now
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2007-10-25 22:28
tcgalo,
I am glad to hear that you got your NS updated. Were you able to figure out what was done differently this time?
Toli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-10-29 03:15
Toli,
Sorry it took forever to reply... I think I was not burning my software right, the SONY CD that I received within 5 business days worked just like the instructions stated.
If I ever get a new TV, I am sure I will not be having problems.
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It All Depends
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2007-10-29 07:37
tcgalo,
At least you got it working right, that's good to hear.
So, how do you like your DVP-NS9100ES? I think that it is a really nice player.
Toli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2007-10-29 07:46
On 2007-07-28 16:18, SNY4ME wrote:
I'll deduct the .1 because unlike my 7100ES, when you dim the display completely it doesn't turn on automatically when you use a button.
Lyle
SNY4ME,
I agree, that sure would be a nice feature. Although I don't remember any of my Sony DVD players ever having that feature.
Toli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-10-29 13:43
Toli,
Here is a funny thing about the NS9100ES. For the 1 year I have had the unit, I have watched less than ten movies on it...most of the time I am listening to my XA777ES.
This is how I can describe it...after removing a disc from the player, the CD/DVD smells brand new...if you know what I mean....the smell of a brand new machine.
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clang
Sony Fan
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Posts: 6
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario
| Posted: 2007-10-29 16:38
I recently replaced my 9000ES with the 9100ES but have found no noticeable improvement in the picture quality when playiny DVDs. This is contrary to my expectations since the new player can upconvert. Is this normal or have I missed doing something?
My TV is the LCD rear projection KF-42WE620 with DVI input. Cable used is Monster Cable HDMI-DVI.
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-10-29 18:47
Clang,
I have a similar connection as yours and I would say the picture is phenomenon, you need to;
1- Check the DVD's resolution output... mine is @ 1080i
2- Check with your TV manual about its maximum resolution. If it's 480P, then there will be no noticeable difference, 720P on up, you should see a difference... I can almost bet.
The 9000 that you replaced was a fine player but the NS9100 with its HDMI output....
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It All Depends
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2007-10-29 18:52
tcgalo,
Your post just beat me to it. Good diagnosis, I was just about to say that!
Toli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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mykyll2727
Sony Pro
Joined: Apr 30, 2004
Posts: 4171
From: Las Vegas
 | Posted: 2007-10-29 20:40
On 2007-10-29 03:15, tcgalo wrote:
Toli,
Sorry it took forever to reply... I think I was not burning my software right, the SONY CD that I received within 5 business days worked just like the instructions stated.
If I ever get a new TV, I am sure I will not be having problems.
How does one go about getting the firmware update?_Mykl
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2007-10-29 20:52
mykyll2727,
Here you go:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-list.pl?mdl=DVPNS9100ES
T oli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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clang
Sony Fan
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Posts: 6
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario
| Posted: 2007-10-30 17:54
tcgalo, toli
Thanks for your reply.
Under Specifications in the TV manual, there is no mention of the resolution(which I find irritating even before this). Next to the DVI input jack at the back of the TV, though, there is a sticker saying 1080i,720p,etc., so I assume that's the TV's resolution.
I'm not sure what you mean by the DVD's output resolution(your first point) and would be happy to hear your clarification. If you mean the HDMI resolution under "Settings for the Display" in the 9100 manual, I have tried both Auto and 720x480.
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-10-30 21:43
Clang,
The 720 by 480 will not realize a better picture. You need to go into the video menu again and instead of the 720X480, choose the 1920X1080i....
The 480 is progressive, just what about any other DVD can do. The 1280X720p and the 1920X1080i are the up-converted signals... HD uses the last two and the new 1080P.
In short, choose the 1920X1080i on your DVD Video menu. Let us know if you are successful in doing so.... also, please report back with the video quality.
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-10-31 23:08
Clang.
The DVI on the TV has nothing to do with the up-conversion. If your setting is at 1920X1080i...then I don't know what could be off...
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It All Depends
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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
| Posted: 2007-10-31 13:22
The player scales just as well as an SXRD assuming you apply 30% sharpness to your 480p source.
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KDS60A3000, STR-DG1000, DVPNS9100ES, BDP-S1, PS3, SSCN55OH, SSM65OH (x2), SSCN35OH (x4), SAW 250 watt sub.
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clang
Sony Fan
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Posts: 6
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario
| Posted: 2007-10-31 16:16
Tried that but sorry to say that there is no difference. I wonder if the TV's DVI input(not being HDMI and therefore no upconversion) has anything to do with it.
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2007-11-01 07:30
On 2007-10-31 23:08, tcgalo wrote:
Clang.
The DVI on the TV has nothing to do with the up-conversion. If your setting is at 1920X1080i...then I don't know what could be off...
clang,
I agree, the DVI isn't the problem.
Check the player's HDMI resolution setting to be sure that it's not set to 720x480p. If it is, try one of the other settings like AUTO.
Toli
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KDL-52XBR6 w/Salamander Archetype TV65,STR-DA7100ES,BDP-S1,DVP-NS9100ES,DIRECTV HR21,Panamax 5510-PRO ACRegenerator & M1500-UPS;Klipsch:KSF-10.5(2),KSF-C5,KSF-S5(4-2),KSW-15; glass toslinks,Pure Silver i-Link & HDMI,PS3,Harmony 880 Pro
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-11-01 23:46
Fanboyz,
My TV has a DVI input and the NS does not disable the output of the 1080i signal...I don't think the DVI is the issue.
I agree with the first point though that the TV might have a good scaler like the DVD itself
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tcgalo
Sony Addict
Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 270
From: denver
| Posted: 2007-11-02 00:33
Clang,
Try this... connect your TV using both HDMI and component cables... make sure the component is set at 480p and the HDMI resolution is at 1080i, if there is no difference in picture quality, then your TV's scaler is very GOOD.....
In other words..AB the two connections
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fanboyz
Sony Addict
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 237
From: minnesota
| Posted: 2007-11-01 15:33
If you dont see improvement, your TV may be scaling just as well as the dvpns9100.
Or the dvpns9100's drm restricts upconversion when DVI is used.
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KDS60A3000, STR-DG1000, DVPNS9100ES, BDP-S1, PS3, SSCN55OH, SSM65OH (x2), SSCN35OH (x4), SAW 250 watt sub.
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clang
Sony Fan
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Posts: 6
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario
| Posted: 2007-11-02 18:56
This is an interesting notion, that my TV, an obsolete Sony model, may have a very good scaler.
Picture quality from HDMI-DVI and component video outputs look the same to me. Another thing worthy of note is that I find HD TV quality, which is vastly superior to standard TV especially in sports programs, to be better than that from DVDs.
Does that mean that I won't benefit from upconversion?
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