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    vinny55
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Aug 17, 2009
    Posts: 4
    From: canada
     Posted: 2009-08-17 23:50   


    Whoever is still looking for the mega rare $3000 Sony DTC-2000ES dat player i have one for sale. but im not going to give it away. see my add here from canada:
    serious enquiries only


    http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/138302-dragon_of_dat_machines_sony_dtc2000es_wow_4_heads_/

    silverghost
    Sony Enthusiant
    Joined: Oct 28, 2003
    Posts: 31
    From: Huntingdon Valley Pa.
     Posted: 2007-01-10 19:03   
       I am interested in buying a SONY DAT (Digital Audio Tape Deck (Recorder/Player)Which Sony model # should I buy???  I know these decks were never very popular and did not really sell well in the USA...In fact...They were thought to be a threat to the record industry who tried to lobby congress to prevent them from being sold here at all because digital copies are always a perfect "clone" of the origional recording!!!
        There are many listed on the Web from Dealers (New!) as well as slightly used units on EBay...
        Should I buy a Sony "ES" unit or a standard Sony consumer unit???
    Did any of these deck model # have any problems that I should avoid???
        Is there anyone out there that still uses their DAT Deck on a regular basis???
        Are these DAT Decks worthwhile...or should I just buy a high-end Sony Cd burner???
          Thank's for all your opinions...
              Silverghost 

    [ This message was edited by: silverghost on 2007-01-11 01:41 ]

    retate
    Sony Aficionado
    Joined: Nov 29, 2002
    Posts: 128
    From: Minnesota
     Posted: 2007-01-10 21:46   
    Silverghost

    My personal experience is with older Sony DAT decks so I can only comment from that perspective.  I still own a DTC-700 and it gets used from time to time for live recording.  If I was doing enough live recording to justify the expenditure I would be using current technology such as the Tascam DV-RA1000 or the new DV-RA1000HD.  Devices such as the Tascam have much better A-to-D and D-to-A converters and they can record at higher sample rates all of which will contribute to improved audio quality. 

    In the older Sony DAT models such as the one I have the only difference between non ES and ES versions was one or possibly two ICs as documented in the service manual which covered both models.  My DAT deck has never been heavily used, but in the 16 years I have owned it the only maintenance that has been done on it is head cleaning which has been done by hand.  I have not used a cleaning tape on it.

    Bob

    silverghost
    Sony Enthusiant
    Joined: Oct 28, 2003
    Posts: 31
    From: Huntingdon Valley Pa.
     Posted: 2007-01-11 01:39   
       I appreciate your reply... The real use that I have for a DAT is for the occasional recording of family music (kids wife etc.. concerts etc...
       I have a normal casette recorder but thought that I might buy a Sony Portable DAT as well as a larger Sony DAT deck to get better digital recordings that I could then edit and later burn to a CD media for long term enjoyment!!!
       The old casette's quality is not even close to the DAT's digital recording qualty!!!
        I was at a friend's home over the holidays and their DAT deck's sound quality just stunned me!!!
        My first thought...
        I just have to get one of these decks!!!
      To my surprise they are just not being sold new in the High End Audio& Video stores anymore!!!
        Does anyone know the very last High-End DAT deck model # that Sony built???
    When approx were these great units last sold in the USA???

    David_S
    Sony Legend
    Joined: Aug 03, 2004
    Posts: 905
    From: BC, Canada
     Posted: 2007-01-12 03:12   
    I have a pair of DTC-690 decks that I bought new in 1995 and used them for archiving vinyl & recording FM broadcasts.  Now I only use one of them for transferring material I have previously recorded on DAT tape into the PC for archiving into lossless compressed FLAC files and burning onto CDs.

    I now use an MDS-JA3ES minidisc deck as an A/D converter to import digitized analogue audio in to the PC.

    DAT is a dying technology, only get one if you want it as a collector's item & then get a top end recent model ES unit.
    -----------------
    TA- E77ES E80ES E1000ESD E9000ES TA- N77ES F555ES, ST-S730ES RM- AV3000 AX1400 (2)AX4000 STR- DA4ES DA3100ES (2)DA5700ES (2)GX10ES DVP- (3)NS999ES NS3100ES CX777ES CDP-X303ES, CDP-M555ES MDS-JA20ES, TC-K717ES, DTC-690

    silverghost
    Sony Enthusiant
    Joined: Oct 28, 2003
    Posts: 31
    From: Huntingdon Valley Pa.
     Posted: 2007-01-12 14:21   
      Thank's...I understand that these DAT Decks are now not on the cutting-edge...BUT for what I want it for it should work out well!!!
         Does anyone know the model # s of the last Sony ES "Top of the Line" DAT decks??? 

    David_S
    Sony Legend
    Joined: Aug 03, 2004
    Posts: 905
    From: BC, Canada
     Posted: 2007-01-13 01:23   


    This link has info on some Sony DAT decks


    http://farzeno.club.fr/sonydek.htm

    I think Sony discontinued consumer model DAT decks about 5 years ago, the newest model name I can find is DTC-ZA5ES.
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    TA- E77ES E80ES E1000ESD E9000ES TA- N77ES F555ES, ST-S730ES RM- AV3000 AX1400 (2)AX4000 STR- DA4ES DA3100ES (2)DA5700ES (2)GX10ES DVP- (3)NS999ES NS3100ES CX777ES CDP-X303ES, CDP-M555ES MDS-JA20ES, TC-K717ES, DTC-690

    MarkJM
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Apr 26, 2006
    Posts: 3
    From: Ireland
     Posted: 2007-01-13 18:59   

    The one to look out for is the Sony DTC 2000ES.

    It is the king of the non-studio decks and was the reference Sony unit.  It is superbly constructed but can be difficult to come by.

    There are some fantastic pictures at http://www.thevintageknob.org/SONY/sonyes/DTC2000ES/DTC2000ES.html

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2010-11-16 12:39   
    I've got a pair of Sony PCM-7010F's with a RM-D7200 edit controller. Awesome, plus, these units are still serviceable. Flat rate is $895.00 to rebuild as required to meet specs. You can buy one of these today for peanuts off E-Bay and have a really good recorder, as good as any time-code recorder out there today for a fraction of the price.  Back in 1995 I paid $7200 for each of my units and another $2750 for the dual remote controller. Mine have time-code generator, AES/EBU digital i/o, and memory start options. These units are edit accurate to about 3 frames. The PCM-7010 may be the best sounding DAT recorder that Sony made. I also have owned 75es and 87es units, as well as a PCM-300, but none of these are in the class of the 7000 series, which are built like tanks for broadcast and post production work.

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2010-11-16 13:07 ]

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2010-11-16 13:09 ]

    TMC
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 29, 2010
    Posts: 184
    From: Gothenburg, Sweden
     Posted: 2011-01-08 19:16   
    Hi,

    Itīs a fact that the DAT-technology for some is a dying kind of record and replay high quality music. But nevertheless it is a very important step in the Sony brands heritage and for any of us in this eminent forum it has its place in a complete collection!

    If  youīre considering a very nice sample of the heritage of digital recording technology you look after a DTC-1000ES just because it was Sonys FIRST DAT-recorder - it is just as simple as that!

    Otherwise you look for a model in the ES-series as new as possible, but then you are just up to a competitor to the same age of a quite good ES Minidisc...

    Whatever model  you choose/find one thing is more important than others:

    You canīt use it once in a while - you must realize that the DAT-decks has so many security functions built-in to secure that the tape isnīt destroyed so you must use the deck letīs say once a week!!

    Most DAT-decks I know give the owner trouble just because they donīt use it!!

    If you risk to not use it so often, just remember to play a cassette from the start to end once a week!!

    Normally you donīt use the deck so much that you rip it out, the risk is bigger that it get you into trouble because you are using it to seldom!

    Good luck!

    I hope you let us know what you will find in your reseach for a nice DAT-recorder!


    -----------------
    Best Regards TMC Impressed by Sony ES since 1987! N.B Looking for a TA-N77ES, TA-N80ES or TA-N90ES!!! CDP-338ESD CDP-X55ES (w RM-D590) CDP-C79ES DTC-55ES 2xTA-E1000ESD (w RM-P1000) 2xTA-N55ES TA-F730ES ST-S707ES

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-01-15 06:04   
    Canuckaudiomart has a Sony PCM-7010 for $500.

    TMC
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 29, 2010
    Posts: 184
    From: Gothenburg, Sweden
     Posted: 2011-02-17 07:28   
    Silverghost, did you find any DAT?

    Iīll get my DTC-55ES back from a visit at Sony tomorrow (just check and cleaning) so I look forward to put it in my stand again!

    The Sony technician meassured the heads and came to the conclusion that it probably has less than fifty hours of run time.... in twenty years!!

    -----------------
    Best Regards

    TMC

    Proud owner of Sony ES since I got my first brand new on my 18th birthday back in the 1980s!!

    Sony CDP-X55ES
    Sony DTC-55ES
    Sony TA-E1000ESD
    Sony TA-F730ES
    Sony TA-N55ES

    [ This message was edited by: TMC on 2011-02-18 15:05 ]

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-14 06:59   
    sterling1:
    Hello Sterling1, I have a DAT Sony PCM-7010 and I have a problem with digital input. If I connect the CD-player or computer via S/PDIF connector (iec 95, in sound I hear a slightly sputtering (Sputtering could I hear, always, when I connect something to digital input S/PDIF iec958 and select "Input Monitor"). In the menu I have a correct selecting - iec958 (in dio setting). Drum assy is OK (playing records from another machines are OK, recording from analog inputs is OK). With the CDplayer is sputtering worse than with the computer sound card. Could you tell me where is the problem?. Thanks a lot.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-14 11:15   
    So, you're going from IEC 958 out from the CD player to IEC 958 input on the PCM-7010, and you've set the menu for IEC 958. O.K., did you also set the switch on the rear panel from AES/EBU in/out to IEC 958 in/out? I'm assuming you have the 7011B option. Did you set the switch on the front panel for digital input? Did you set the switch on the front panel for internal sync?  Check those things out. If you don't get a quick fix, you'll need to check for a few things, actually a gazillion things in the menu. I hope you have an operation manual. Did you buy your unit used? And, has the menu been opened for any enhanced functions? Also, are you using new tapes? Be sure to first record time-code on the entire tape before recording audio. Set the unit to assemble record,  and without any input, record whatever time-code suits you. At any rate, do this stuff and tell me what happens. Also, turn off the input monitor and listen to what you've just recorded,  how does that sound? At any rate, what I think is going on here is a just a sync problem.  

    Recap, Check the following settings: SAMPLING FREQ selector, AUDIO INPUT selector and AES/EBU, IEC958 selector, SYNC signal selector and AES/EBU, IEC958 selector.

    Just to duplicate your experience,  I connected my Sony DVP-S9000ES from its S/PDIF out to the IEC958 input on one of my PCM 7010's, and I recorded a few minutes from a  CD. Other than noticing that the meter was maxed, playback  sounded real good, no problems. Now, if you don't get this straight, I'll take the time to check all of my menu settings in-order that you can get those in sync if required. If you then are still having a problem, I'd suggest you'd send it to Sony for inspection.
    .
    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-14 11:43 ]

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    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-14 15:03   
    One more thing,  set sync to narrow in the menu and check your input gain. You may need to reduce it.

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-16 11:03   
    Hello Sterling1, I have checked all things.

    So, you're going from IEC 958 out from the CD player to IEC 958 input on the PCM-7010, and you've set the menu for IEC 958. O.K., did you also set the switch on the rear panel from AES/EBU in/out to IEC 958 in/out? YES
    I'm assuming you have the 7011B option. Did you set the switch on the front panel for digital input? YES
    Did you set the switch on the front panel for internal sync? YES
    Check those things out. If you don't get a quick fix, you'll need to check for a few things, actually a gazillion things in the menu. I hope you have an operation manual. Did you buy your unit used? YES, I have a manual and YES, the unit I bought used.
    And, has the menu been opened for any enhanced functions? YES
    Also, are you using new tapes? NEW and USED
    Be sure to first record time-code on the entire tape before recording audio. Set the unit to assemble record, and without any input, record whatever time-code suits you. At any rate, do this stuff and tell me what happens. Also, turn off the input monitor and listen to what you've just recorded, how does that sound? ABSOLUTLY SILENT, no sound, no sputtering.
    At any rate, what I think is going on here is a just a sync problem.

    Problem of sputtering is when I connect any source to IEC958 input, and when a set input monitor - there is sputtering.

    With kind regards
    Michal H.


    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-16 18:22   
    I'll connect my CD player again;  and,  see, when the input monitor is on, what happens. Now, if you're going from computer to 7010 remember to set the computer to  a sampling rate which can be received by the 7010. This of course should not have anything to do with your CD player however, unless you're playing CD's from a BD player which is up-sampling. At any rate, do you have a Sony Professional repair center in your area? As far as I know, the only place for service today on these units is Sony Pro in Los Angeles, CA.

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-16 19:33 ]

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-16 18:42   
    O.K., I listened with the input monitor on and I had severe input overload, when input gain was set to standard 0db. Reduce your input gain from 0db to somewhere around -48 to -24db. This is the second menu item, where you can adjust both channels simultaneously if you want. I think that should solve your problem. Let me know what happens.

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-16 19:35 ]

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-17 04:17 ]

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-17 11:14   
    I have reduced the input Gain, but no improvement. I have checked when the sputtering started. Always on the start of each songs, between songs, and irregularly in songs. Itīs not dependent on signal strength.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-17 12:31   
    You've got a tracking problem. In other words your unit does not know what speed to run. Clean your tape head.  Record time-code and sampling frequency from beginning to end on a new blank tape in assemble mode (don't record any audio yet). Then, go back and re-record with some audio in assemble mode, inserting start id's where appropriate. Play back, and if you still have a problem, you're likely in need of a new circuit board.

    Last year, one of my 7010's would loose time-code when in start id search mode.  Start id's would just be bypassed. I thought it was a worn tape head, or an alignment problem. I sent the unit to the Sony Pro Repair  Center in Los Angeles, CA. They replaced a circuit board; and now, this problem is behind me. The flat rate to fix was $890.00 which included return shipping. I hope you fare better.

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-20 06:38 ]

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-20 05:54   
    Well, what's going on?

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-22 05:20   
    I tried record on a blank tape - whole tape a rewind. Then record in assemble mode, but still the same problem. There is something wrong with the input signal in digital mode. Analog is absolutely OK. Iīm waiting on o reduction from cinch to XLR and I will try to connect digital signal to AES/EBU connector. And after I will try digital copy from PCM-7030 to PCM-7010 via AES/EBU.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-22 05:57   
    You appear to be isolating your problem, somewhere beyond the coax input, which suggests a circuit loosing momentarily the digital signal. If you have the same problem in AES/EBU that would confirm. Please, keep me posted.  

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-22 08:01 ]

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-24 03:33   
    Simetimes shines PB Condition - When I play recordings of other recorders (DTC-60ES, ..), recordings of PCM-7010 or PCM-7030 are OK. Sometimes the recorder couldnīt pull out a tape and after lights up alarm indicator.
    It hasnīt another error message or caution.
    If it has a digital I/O circuit problem - I must change this board? Or only repair?

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-24 04:57   
    O.K.,so, tapes recorded on other DAT recorders will play back without problem on your 7010. That's further evidence of the problem having something to do with the digital circuit board at input. And, yes you may be able to repair it. BTW, this board was an option on the 7010 (DABK7011B), and, if you order one it will come with an installation guide, about 700 dollars US. Did you buy the 7010 used? Since the digital interface was an option on your unit, it may have not been installed correctly. Even Sony was known to install these apparently without reading instructions, which was the case with one of my units. But, lets review, you now know that when recording with input to 7010 from either AES/EBU or EIC958 you are getting a slurry sound from your monitors when the 7010's input monitor is on. Certainly, it could be anything and I'm not a technician, but it would appear that this circuit board is malfunctioning. Open it up and see if internal connections are solid. And, please keep me posted.

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-23 14:44   
    Hello Sterling, so when I copy from PCM-7030 via AES/EBu to PCM-7010, there is same problem.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-23 19:11   
    Well, I think you've got a digital I/O circuit board (DIO board) problem.  Are you getting any flashing indicator warnings? Are you getting an error message, i.e. ALARM indicator, MUTE indicator, cAution, PB CONDITION, or ERROR? Are you getting an error code 4-**? These messages can get you directly to the  circuit board in need of replacement. You can do the repair yourself. That's the beauty of pro gear. Please keep me abreast. Oh, I almost forgot, be sure to check out the error screen from your menu too. 

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-27 09:26   
    Yes I bought this unit used, it has 1492 hour on the drum (I have new one drum assy in the box). I have opened the unit and every connection look like OK. I found only one puffy electrolyte capacitor on one board. Anything else OK.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-27 18:19   
    What board has the exploded capacitor? And, did you ever have a time when the AES/EBU, or EIC 958 input did work without the problem you are now having? Have you contacted the previous owner? Did the previous owner have an issue like yours? I really think you have a circuit board problem, but usually you'd get a 4** error  code for something  not right with it. Maybe a Sony tech is in order. Right now, set the menu display to error and try recording again as you were with input monitor set to on. What happens? One other thing, do the recordings your are monitoring play back correctly or are they distorted too? I remember you mentioning this problem when the input monitor was on so this may be isolated to it. Nevertheless, the intermittent nature of the problem and the problem being one between tracks and at the beginning of tracks does suggest a loss of sync due to a malfunctioning circuit or perhaps drum. If it is your drum you will likely need to send to a Sony repair station that  has the jig to align it properly. In fact, if your drum is not already worn out, 1400 plus hours suggests it is, it may be misaligned.
    BTW, I did not consider the drum as an issue before, as I recall you saying it was O.K.

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-28 02:30 ]

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2011-03-28 02:35 ]

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-29 06:55   
    One more thing, it would appear if your problem is just when the input monitor mode is on and the tape is not recording your drum would not be suspect. Have you tried this? 

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-31 14:37   
    The board is: Pass control Board - Capacitor Nr.: C358 220uF/50V - image:


    I have never a time when the aes/ebu or IEC input work without problem .
    I have contacted the previous owner - he said the deck was OK - 100% functioned.
    If I set the menu to Error and recording - Error - -- without any error code.
    Recordings - with monitoring input are distorted too.
    I think the drum is OK, because when I record from analog source - 100% OK and a playback si also 100% OK.

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-31 14:41   


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    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-31 19:25   
    Gee, I don't know man. Wait, what kind of RCA cable are you using. Ideally, a 75ohm video cable should be used. Have you tried switching cables?

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-03-31 19:25   
    Gee, I don't know man. Wait, what kind of RCA cable are you using. Ideally, a 75ohm video cable should be used. Have you tried switching cables?

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-03-31 23:21   
    Hello Sterling, I tried to copy from PCM7030 to 7010 via another aes/ebu cable ALVA - same problem. I think cables are OK. So Iīm going to a Sony professional service centre. If the recorder will be OK, I write where was a problem. Thank you for your advices.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-04-13 18:19   
    Well, what did Sony say?

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-05-10 06:22   
    It's been awhile, did you send your PCM-7010 to Sony for repair? What was the outcome?

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-06-12 04:19   
    Hello, Sterling1, sorry for my late answer. At the Sony service didnīt know where is the problem, so I was still googling and I have found this resolution:
    Description: The PCM-7010 microprocessor IC557 on the SP(1) board detect the type of DIO option installed by monitoring the voltage at pin 49 (DIOPT). If noise is present in the DIOPT line the microprocessor may temporarily detect the wrong type of DIO board or that no dio board installed. If this occurs the mocroprocessor may try to use external word clock or internal clock instead of clock derived from an aes/ebu or spdif signal - this will cause noise on the digital input.
    Resolution - install capacitor 1000pF in parallel with R102.
    Thatīs all.

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-06-12 04:25   
    Now I have another problem with Sony PCM-7050.
    When the machine is long off and when a set On - after 10s machine go off.
    When i try to set on - itīs no possible. After cca 1/2 hour it could start, but after 5s machine go off. I try to change all electrolyte capacitor in switching regulator (the problem is 100% here) - because when I try another switching regulator (from my PCM-7030 - there is the same) machine go on without any problem. Please could you tell me where si the problem? Thank you very much.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-06-12 17:50   


    As I understand it you have fixed the 7010 per the bulletin you Googled, is that right? Regarding your new problem, I'd just go through the error code menu, that's all I know to do. BTW, about the only place I know of  where these machines can be serviced today is at Sony Professional Service Center in LA, CA. Good luck, and keep me posted.

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2011-06-12 23:08   
    Yes, thatīs right. I have fixed the problem per the bulletin.
    To the PCM-7050.
    I havenīt a time to go to the error menu, because after 10s machine turn off - best solution is new switching regulator from another wreck machine.

    mykyll2727
    Sony Pro
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas
     Posted: 2011-09-30 08:50   
    In case anyone's interested: There's what many consider Sony's finest home DAT deck, the DTC 2000ES, up for auction on eBay. Item #320767141945._mykl

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-09-30 09:55   


    I looked at this listing. Does the 2000 feature Super Bit Mapping?

    mykyll2727
    Sony Pro
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas
     Posted: 2011-09-30 21:38   
    Yes it does and in fact was the first consumer unit to do so._mykl

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2011-10-01 02:41   
    I've got an SBM-1 for my TCD-D8; and, recent recordings of thundershowers suggests SBM does indeed make these recordings sound more lifelike. At $450 though, for the unit listed, unless someone wants to complete a project with a particular ES look, the DAT affectionado might want to also look into a low mileage PCM-7010. These are now coming out of studios; and, many have low miles on them, just being used for copying, which was a typical use for these recorders. I looked at one the other day with just a little over 300 hours on it. It was listed for under $300. The PCM 7000 series have a multitude of features which support the manipulation of sound and time-code; and, these recorders are still serviced by Sony.



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    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2012-03-13 09:19   
    Hi Sterling1, I got an offer for you.
    I have one drum assy for SONY PCM-7010 (DOH-11A-R, sony part: 8-848-535-11) moreover.
    Original Sony, made in Japan.


    It has been

    unobtainable

    part.


    Are you interested
    ?
    With kind regards.

      

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2012-03-31 06:46   
    My units only have about 300 hours each; but, how much do you want in US dollars for this part?

    michalha
    Sony Buff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
    Posts: 22
    From: Czech republik
     Posted: 2012-04-08 15:36   
    This part is no longer aviable - http://www.encompassparts.com/item/556807/Sony/8-848-535-11/Drum_Assy,doh-11a-r
    So what is your maximum bid?
    Postage is something about 20 US dollars (to Louisville, Kentucky).
    Thanks.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2012-04-11 14:44   
    Well, thing is, I do not need the part. And, I use my 7010's so rarely these days I hopefully will never need the part.

    mykyll2727
    Sony Pro
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas
     Posted: 2012-07-05 09:34   
    There's a DTC-2000ES for sale on eBay.__mykyl


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230821146709&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

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    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2012-07-14 06:41   
    i understand the DTC-2000ES is remarkable. At the time I purchased my 2 PCM-7010F's with RM-D7200 dual remote, which is actually an automatic digital edit controller, the system was state of the art. As far as setting operating parameters from the menu goes, the system is still state of the art. I paid about $17,000 for the system. Today, I see these units going for about
    $300.00. As professional equipment made for on-air broadcasting, they are difficult to integrate into a consumer system, but with a little effort, these units are ideal for recording material off the Internet which cannot be downloaded. To integrate my units I purchased a pair of M-Audio CO-2's which convert optical S/PDIF to IEC 958 and IEC 958 to optical.

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    mykyll2727
    Sony Pro
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 4171
    From: Las Vegas
     Posted: 2012-07-14 09:07   

    On 2012-07-14 06:41, sterling1 wrote:
    i understand the DTC-2000ES is remarkable. At the time I purchased my 2 PCM-7010F's with RM-D7200 dual remote, which is actually an automatic digital edit controller, the system was state of the art. As far as setting operating parameters from the menu goes, the system is still state of the art. I paid about $17,000 for the system. Today, I see these units going for about
    $300.00. As professional equipment made for on-air broadcasting, they are difficult to integrate into a consumer system, but with a little effort, these units are ideal for recording material off the Internet which cannot be downloaded. To integrate my units I purchased a pair of M-Audio CO-2's which convert optical S/PDIF to IEC 958 and IEC 958 to optical.

    [ This message was edited by: sterling1 on 2012-07-14 06:45 ]



    Thanks for the info!! That's good to know._mykl

    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2013-01-02 23:02   

    On 2012-12-31 06:14, sterling1 wrote:
    I wish I could help you; but, it appears I can't. I hope you succeed. The PCM-7010 is simply awesome. In close to 30 years of recording professionally to produce radio commercials I have not experienced any post production unit which has been as satisfying as the 7010. From life like sound to functions, it is really outstanding in its class.

    Could you help me on another issue?
    I can adjust the input/output gain but I don't how to save the setting. When I restart the machine,the settings restored. I don't have a operator manual. Could you tell me how to save the setting? And if you have the pdf operator manual could you please send me a copy? My email is

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    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2012-12-28 00:38   
    Hello,michalha
    I am glad seeing this resolution as my PCM-7010 has exactly the same problem. But when I looked through the service manual I could not  find R102 on the SP(1) board and not even anywhere on the manual.
    Could you please be more specific about what you did?


    On 2011-06-12 04:19, michalha wrote:
    Hello, Sterling1, sorry for my late answer. At the Sony service didnīt know where is the problem, so I was still googling and I have found this resolution:
    Description: The PCM-7010 microprocessor IC557 on the SP(1) board detect the type of DIO option installed by monitoring the voltage at pin 49 (DIOPT). If noise is present in the DIOPT line the microprocessor may temporarily detect the wrong type of DIO board or that no dio board installed. If this occurs the mocroprocessor may try to use external word clock or internal clock instead of clock derived from an aes/ebu or spdif signal - this will cause noise on the digital input.
    Resolution - install capacitor 1000pF in parallel with R102.
    Thatīs all.


    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2012-12-29 02:25   

    On 2011-06-12 17:50, sterling1 wrote:


    As I understand it you have fixed the 7010 per the bulletin you Googled, is that right? Regarding your new problem, I'd just go through the error code menu, that's all I know to do. BTW, about the only place I know of  where these machines can be serviced today is at Sony Professional Service Center in LA, CA. Good luck, and keep me posted.


    Hello Sterling
    Do you know where the R102 is on the service manual or in the machine? I appreciate if you can help.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2012-12-31 06:14   
    I wish I could help you; but, it appears I can't. I hope you succeed. The PCM-7010 is simply awesome. In close to 30 years of recording professionally to produce radio commercials I have not experienced any post production unit which has been as satisfying as the 7010. From life like sound to functions, it is really outstanding in its class.

    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2012-12-30 18:44   

    On 2012-12-30 06:27, sterling1 wrote:
    No, sorry; but, if you can tell me the error code coming up on your machine I can tell you what circuit board the error is originatig from.

    Thank you for your reply.
    There is no error shown after powering it up. The problem is exactly the same as Michalha's machine. That's why I am looking for the R102 he mentioned. We can download the service manual through googling. I am going to install a capacitor 1000pF in parallel with R102 as Michalha did,but I have not found the R102 on the manual. I found resistors from R103 on page 161(pdf file page 105). It's very appreciated if you can help I just got the machine used,and I am new to this kind of machine.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2012-12-30 06:27   
    No, sorry; but, if you can tell me the error code coming up on your machine I can tell you what circuit board the error is originatig from.

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2013-01-08 05:36   


    I do not know how to save the setting. It always resets as you have described.

    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2013-01-16 01:06   
    I got help from Michalha and Problem solved.

    [ This message was edited by: soshs on 2013-02-22 21:59 ]

    sterling1
    Sony Addict
    Joined: Nov 16, 2010
    Posts: 237
    From: Louisville, KY
     Posted: 2013-02-06 06:04   


    Sorry, I can't help, I have not had the problem you have alluded to. I do hope you can get it fixed. There is a Sony professional repair center located in Los Angeles, CA USA which I have sent one of my units to for repair. For a flat rate of $890.00 they fixed everything, bringing the unit up to specs. Perhaps there's an equivalent outlet in your area. At any rate, I hope you can get your unit running again. I completely understand your frustration to have one of the most magnificent recording devices on the planet and not be able to enjoy it. If I can think of  anything to help you I will get back with you. Good luck.

    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2013-02-05 19:01   

    On 2013-01-08 05:36, sterling1 wrote:


    I do not know how to save the setting. It always resets as you have described.


    Hi Sterling
    I've got another new problem. My 7010 shows error 2-05. It appeared several days before when I powered it up but it got back to be functional once I restarted it. These two days it doesn't, what ever I restart it how many times.
    I read the user manual,  It says "the data stored in the servo(SV) backup memory has been destroyed".
    Do you know how can I fix it? The servo board looks like new.
    Thanks

    soshs
    Sony Fan
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 8
    From: China
     Posted: 2013-02-06 20:27   

    On 2013-02-06 06:04, sterling1 wrote:


    Sorry, I can't help, I have not had the problem you have alluded to. I do hope you can get it fixed. There is a Sony professional repair center located in Los Angeles, CA USA which I have sent one of my units to for repair. For a flat rate of $890.00 they fixed everything, bringing the unit up to specs. Perhaps there's an equivalent outlet in your area. At any rate, I hope you can get your unit running again. I completely understand your frustration to have one of the most magnificent recording devices on the planet and not be able to enjoy it. If I can think of  anything to help you I will get back with you. Good luck.

    Thanks for your reply though.

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