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SNY4ME
Sony Legend
Joined: Nov 13, 2005
Posts: 876
From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
 |  Posted: 2006-03-01 00:32
Hey guys. I have a good question for you. Which is better, Satellite or Digital Cable? I done some reasearch into both types, and am concerned if I spend cobs on a reciever that supports 1080i HD. Will it support 1080p when it comes available, or will I have to buy a new reciever?
I don't want to know the obvious stuff, like Cable, won't be black out in bad weather, or those types of things. Any other info you could give at this point would be great.
Lyle
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
 | Posted: 2006-03-01 02:15
I have Cable at home and when I go to my Dad's and watch Dish Network on his 50" Sony Grand Wega the still images are sharp and crystal clear, but when they start to move they become blurred and out of focus which is not a problem on Cable TV.
~Maxx~
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
 | Posted: 2006-03-01 07:55
SNY4ME,
I assume that by "receiver" you mean an audio receiver and not the satellite receiver, is that correct? If so, I would suggest running all video directly to the TV if possible.
Toli
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edconline
Sony Aficionado
Joined: Dec 20, 2005
Posts: 147
From: Ontario, Canada
 | Posted: 2006-03-01 14:42
Lyle,
Here in Canada Bell Expressvu has the most bandwith that they dedicate to the HD channels, and the picture is noticeably better. I saw an HDTV booth at a convention for the store I work at last year and they had three Sony 40" LCD's, all running the same DVI cable, all configured the same from Starchoice satellite, Rogers Digital Cable, and Bell Expressvu satellite HD boxes and the Bell was the clear winner. That was what made a large part of my decision in getting the Bell. They also have the largest HD lineup of the services. If the dish is mounted properly then weather is enver a problem, its not the snow in the air that disturbs the picture, it's when it builds up in the dish. I put mine under the overhang of my roof and it can still point up to the satellite, i have yet to have it go out even nights with 8-12 inches snow. As for 1080p you would probably have to buy a new receiver, so probably the rental option would be the best idea. With those programs once your 2 year rental agreement is up, you could just trade the receiver for a new model. I wouldn't expect 1080p here over sat or digi cable for quite some time anyways based on people i have talked to in the HD recording/broadcasting field.
Ed
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SNY4ME
Sony Legend
Joined: Nov 13, 2005
Posts: 876
From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-01 17:00
On 2006-03-01 07:55, Toli wrote:
SNY4ME,
I assume that by "receiver" you mean an audio receiver and not the satellite receiver, is that correct? If so, I would suggest running all video directly to the TV if possible.
Toli
Well, I'm not sure where you were going with that, but anyway. By 'receiver' I mean, tuner box. My A/V reciever is not a concern.
Lyle
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2006-03-01 17:13
SNY4ME,
It looks like edconline answered your question. I wasn't sure if your concern was the HD signal passing through the audio receiver. I just wanted to be clear in my response.
Toli
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rb
Ultimate Sony Reviewer
Joined: Mar 04, 2003
Posts: 2035
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-01 19:11
On 2006-03-01 02:15, Maxxwire wrote:
I have Cable at home and when I go to my Dad's and watch Dish Network on his 50" Sony Grand Wega the still images are sharp and crystal clear, but when they start to move they become blurred and out of focus which is not a problem on Cable TV.
~Maxx~
The problem is your DAD's TV. I have seen the same thing on the Grand Vega's from both sat and cable.
rb
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2006-03-01 19:15
rb,
Do you have DISH Network? I know that I haven't experienced those symptoms on my TV with DIRECTV.
Toli
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rb
Ultimate Sony Reviewer
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Posts: 2035
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-01 20:17
Toli no I actually don't own a Grand Vega either. I did sell them starting with the first generation out of two different stores. One store had digital cable the other had sat. I would see the same smearing as if the processor could not keep up from both sources. I should add that it was on a HD signal.
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-02 15:48
On 2006-03-01 19:11, rb wrote:The problem is your DAD's TV. I have seen the same thing on the Grand Vega's from both sat and cable.
rb
I listen to music in StereO
I've seen this same effect on every LCD display I've everseen both flat pannel and rear projection so I just assumed that it was a problem with the signal.
The problem could be that I am just too used to watching a fine pitch Tube display.
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2006-03-01 21:49
rb,
I understand. Are you still involved in electronics sales? Have you experienced the same issues with newer TVs?
Toli
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rb
Ultimate Sony Reviewer
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Posts: 2035
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-01 22:38
Toli I have been out of the electronics industry for a year.
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Toli
Sony Master
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Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2006-03-01 22:42
rb,
It's been a while, so I probably missed it. I hope that you enjoy what you are doing.
Toli
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rb
Ultimate Sony Reviewer
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-03 00:21
Tubes are still the best, but suddenly TVs that are 24" are to deep.
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-03 01:42
When I was out shopping for TV's with my DAD none of the LCD displays looked right. It was like there was a very sligh delay in the action scenes almost like there was a problem with the 2D Comb Filter.
I think that I got spoiled by the 533M hz outboard Digital Comb Filter running my 25" Sony Professional Video Monitor (PVM 2530).
~Maxx~
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jehill
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Posts: 13791
From: Sewell, NJ
 | Posted: 2006-03-04 11:39
The problem is that the trend is for larger displays. My KV-36XBR450 weighs 238 pounds! My son's KF-42WE610 only weighs 70 lbs, 12 oz! The convenience of being able to move it so, so much easier is a big plus. However, there is no question that the SD PQ better is better on my set. At this point, I am willing to sacrifice SD PQ for a larger, spectacular, HD picture.
BTW, neither my son nor I have any complaints about the quality of the Comcast digital cable service in our areas (Philadelphia and South Jersey). We have absolutely no desire to switch to satellite.
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Maxxwire
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From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-04 14:59
John- You are absolutely right about the lighter weight of the rear projection LDC sets being a huge advantage. It only took a few minutes to get my Dad's 50" Grand Wega out of the box and into place.
It took a lot longer to figure out that his Dish Network Receiver has a dummy S-Video output. The best signal we can get out of this box is Composite Video.
I'm wondering what its going to cost to get a competent Dish Network Receiver that will receive HD channels and make full use of his new Sony Grand Vega?
~Maxx~
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jehill
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Posts: 13791
From: Sewell, NJ
| Posted: 2006-03-04 20:41
Hopefully, not much. That's one advantage of Comcast cable. You pay only $5.00/mo for the standard HDTV converter and $10.00/mo for a 2 channel version with a built-in HDTV DVR.
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jttar
Sony Master
Joined: Feb 28, 2003
Posts: 9156
From: Chicago,IL, USA
 | Posted: 2006-03-04 22:47
On 2006-03-04 14:59, Maxxwire wrote:
John- You are absolutely right about the lighter weight of the rear projection LDC sets being a huge advantage. It only took a few minutes to get my Dad's 50" Grand Wega out of the box and into place.
It took a lot longer to figure out that his Dish Network Receiver has a dummy S-Video output. The best signal we can get out of this box is Composite Video.
I'm wondering what its going to cost to get a competent Dish Network Receiver that will receive HD channels and make full use of his new Sony Grand Vega?
~Maxx~
Maxx,
I remember when you and your Dad were shopping for a new TV for him but I somehow missed the purchase. Does the new TV have a HD tuner and if so have you tried an OTA antenna to pick up the local HD stations? Also, if your father orders the HD package from Dish Network shouldn't they provide a HD receiver for him?
Joe (aka BeastMaster)
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-05 00:21
Joe- Dad's 1982 Phillips TV set finally died a week ago so we found the 50" Sony Grand Wega for him and it works perfectly with the Audio system I gave him a few months ago in anticipation of getting the big screen TV.
I'm going out there tomorrow and I'll try hooking up an OTA antenna. I'll let you guys know the results tomorrow night.
Hopefully John is right and it won't cost Dad much to get into HD.
~Maxx~
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jttar
Sony Master
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Posts: 9156
From: Chicago,IL, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-05 15:28
On 2006-03-05 00:21, Maxxwire wrote:
Joe- Dad's 1982 Phillips TV set finally died a week ago so we found the 50" Sony Grand Wega for him and it works perfectly with the Audio system I gave him a few months ago in anticipation of getting the big screen TV.
I'm going out there tomorrow and I'll try hooking up an OTA antenna. I'll let you guys know the results tomorrow night.
Hopefully John is right and it won't cost Dad much to get into HD.
~Maxx~
Maxx,
Be sure footed if your going on the roof and watch out for those power wires. 
All I use with my KDF55WF655 is an OTA antenna to pick up my local HD stations. You Dad is going to be blown away by the PQ if you are able to get a good signal.
Joe (aka BeastMaster)
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-05 16:02
I'm leaving for Dad's within the hour so I'll know pretty soon how it works out.
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retate
Sony Aficionado
Joined: Nov 29, 2002
Posts: 128
From: Minnesota
| Posted: 2006-03-06 00:37
One other consideration for some people in choosing between cable and satellite is that even if you have digital cable some cable companies include their analog feed as part of the digital service. The cable company analog feed makes it easy to deliver cable to a cable ready TVs or computers with a TV tuner card without having multiple receivers, or some a redistribution system.
Bob
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Toli
Sony Master
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 8509
From: Winthrop Harbor, IL USA
| Posted: 2006-03-06 09:23
retate,
I agree, sometimes a simpler solution is just better. It would also make sense if one is limited on space.
Regards,
Toli
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SonySam
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From:
| Posted: 2006-03-06 13:14
On 2006-03-06 09:23, Toli wrote:
retate,
I agree, sometimes a simpler solution is just better. It would also make sense if one is limited on space.
Regards,
Toli
JUST MORE FLUF STUF U COULD AGREE TO EVERY POST + GET MO #'S
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rb
Ultimate Sony Reviewer
Joined: Mar 04, 2003
Posts: 2035
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-06 13:26
On 2006-03-06 13:14, SonySam wrote:
On 2006-03-06 09:23, Toli wrote:
retate,
I agree, sometimes a simpler solution is just better. It would also make sense if one is limited on space.
Regards,
Toli
JUST MORE FLUF STUF U COULD AGREE TO EVERY POST + GET MO #'S
Sammy after reading all of your 13 posts here I believe you have a problem. Do YOU have something to say or contribute??? You sound an aweful lot like a TROLL.
rb
I listen to music in StereO
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-06 15:44
On 2006-03-06 13:26, rb wrote:
On 2006-03-06 13:14, SonySam wrote:
On 2006-03-06 09:23, Toli wrote:
retate,
I agree, sometimes a simpler solution is just better. It would also make sense if one is limited on space.
Regards,
Toli
JUST MORE FLUF STUF U COULD AGREE TO EVERY POST + GET MO #'S
Sammy after reading all of your 13 posts here I believe you have a problem. Do YOU have something to say or contribute??? You sound an aweful lot like a TROLL.
rb
I listen to music in StereO
Sammy- If someone wants to assinate their own credibility by making quick generic fluff statements then that's their own choice.
You would do the Forum a service by counteracting the fluff with a constructive contribution to the discussion at hand.
~Maxx~
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rb
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-06 16:21
I find this the most friendly forum on the net. Sometimes people make comments because it's like having a conversation with someone.
To attack a long time member because they believe there was not enough meat in their response is totally unacceptable.
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-06 16:25
On 2006-03-05 15:28, jttar wrote:All I use with my KDF55WF655 is an OTA antenna to pick up my local HD stations. Your Dad is going to be blown away by the PQ if you are able to get a good signal.
Joe (aka BeastMaster)
My Dad set up an OTA antenna in his attic 25 years ago but the reception was so poor that he got Cable.
Yesterday I hooked up the OTA antenna input on his 50" Grand Wega to that same OTA antenna with a crummy OEM slip on F-pin terminated coax wire because that's all he had on hand.
I switched to the OTA input and initiated the Auto Program hoping to find a Digital channel or two. Dad and I counted 1,2,3...4,5...6,7,8,9...10,11...12...13 Digital channels in all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Dad is an artist and counts Oil Panting, Water color, Lithography, Stained Glass, Photography and an art form he invented called Digital Pixel Painting among the mediums he has worked in. In other words he is a very visual person with an acute understanding of color, hue, texture, shading and the other aspects of the visual experience.
My Dad's reaction to his first glimpse of the OTA signal in 1080i Hi-Def could only be described as Visual Arrest!
All he could say was "I knew it would be good, but not this good!"
Dad is not that easily impressed when it comes to visual graphics in that has been doing computer graphics for 19 years and he knows very well what High Resolution is. He has an 8M pixel Sony Digital camera and a 17" format Epson Pro 4000 Printer that he prints up enlargements which he frames for his patrons, his Photo Shows and local Art Galleries.
I weeded out all of the 480i channels and some others he didn't care to watch and we ended up with 6 of the most beautiful channels of HD programming. Dad kept saying that he couldn't beleive that this was all coming through that useless antenna he had put up so long ago! I couldn't beleive it was coming through that worthless OEM coax cable I connected the TV with!
Thanks Joe for encourging me to hook up that OTA antenna because for the first time my Dad got to see what his new 50" Sony Grand Wega could REALLY DO!
And it was spectacular!
~Maxx~
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Navmaster
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Posts: 443
From: Tampa Bay - Florida - USA
 | Posted: 2006-03-06 18:15
On 2006-03-01 02:15, Maxxwire wrote:
I have Cable at home and when I go to my Dad's and watch Dish Network on his 50" Sony Grand Wega the still images are sharp and crystal clear, but when they start to move they become blurred and out of focus which is not a problem on Cable TV.
~Maxx~
Maxx,
What you are describing is a common problem with the setup on some Sony and other rear projection televisions. If you look into the proper helping your dad with the best settings you can eliminate or almost eliminate this condition.
Scott
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lemoncadillac
Sony Fanatic
Joined: Sep 23, 2005
Posts: 380
From: Minneapolis,MN. USA
 | Posted: 2006-03-06 18:27
Maxx
I bought the same TV today. I pick it up Friday. I love the glowing report. Ok, now I'm excited. I also received my Monster 3600 power conditioner today. I will be a busy boy this weekend. I hope I can reach you at your fathers ( hahaha). Good luck and I hope to post the same. " I got to see what his new 50" Sony Grand Wega could REALLY DO!
And it was spectacular! "
Thank You
Lemon
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jttar
Sony Master
Joined: Feb 28, 2003
Posts: 9156
From: Chicago,IL, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-06 21:19
On 2006-03-06 16:25, Maxxwire wrote:
My Dad's reaction to his first glimpse of the OTA signal in 1080i Hi-Def could only be described as Visual Arrest!
All he could say was "I knew it would be good, but not this good!"
Dad is not that easily impressed when it comes to visual graphics in that has been doing computer graphics for 19 years and he knows very well what High Resolution is. He has an 8M pixel Sony Digital camera and a 17" format Epson Pro 4000 Printer that he prints up enlargements which he frames for his patrons, his Photo Shows and local Art Galleries.
I weeded out all of the 480i channels and some others he didn't care to watch and we ended up with 6 of the most beautiful channels of HD programming. Dad kept saying that he couldn't beleive that this was all coming through that useless antenna he had put up so long ago! I couldn't beleive it was coming through that worthless OEM coax cable I connected the TV with!
Thanks Joe for encourging me to hook up that OTA antenna because for the first time my Dad got to see what his new 50" Sony Grand Wega could REALLY DO!
And it was spectacular!
~Maxx~
Maxx,
Fantastic news and account. I only wish that I could have been there to see your Dad's and your expressions when you got that first glimpse of HD programming on his new Grand Wega. With the keen eye your father has for detail it's exciting that he was impressed with the GW's picture.
Even if he is like me and not a Jay Leno fan, have Dad try watching the Tonight Show on NBC just to see the PQ. The set looks absolutely 3D.
I wish him many years of enjoying that great picture.
Joe (aka BeastMaster)
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Maxxwire
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-07 02:33
On 2006-03-06 18:27, lemoncadillac wrote:
Maxx
I bought the same TV today. I pick it up Friday. I love the glowing report. Ok, now I'm excited.
lemon- You should be very excited! Get as cought up on things as you can and get next Monday off work because it is going to be very hard to pull yourself away from your new Grand Wega!
I still can't beleive that that great HD picture was coming thru a $3 coax cable! I use over $900 worth of high quality Video wiring on my SD Analog Video and it does make a huge difference, but the same rules don't seem to apply to the wiring delivering the Digital OTA Antenna feed.
If you can tear yourself away from your Grand long enough try to tell us just how spectacular it is!
~Maxx~
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Maxxwire
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-07 02:45
On 2006-03-06 21:19, jttar wrote:With the keen eye your father has for detail it's exciting that he was impressed with the GW's picture.
Now he wants to display the pictures from his 8M pixel Sony Digital camera on the Grand Wega and I'm wondering if there is a way to use the USB output on the camera to do it.
~Maxx~
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jehill
Sony Senior Advisor
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Posts: 13791
From: Sewell, NJ
| Posted: 2006-03-07 16:35
Save the pictures to a memory stick and plug the memory stick into the TV, assuming that your dad has a KF-50WE610 or later model.
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-08 02:07
John- I'll check and see if my Dad can download his photos to a Memory stick to display on his Sony KDF-E50A10 Grand Wega.
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The-Ish316
Sony Fanatic
Joined: Apr 09, 2003
Posts: 328
From: Western PA
 | Posted: 2006-03-08 13:13
Maxx, quite possibly the simplest way to display full digital quality photos on the HD screen will be to successfully burn the images as Hi-Resolution JPEG files to CD-R and look at them via the digital connections. Hopefully, his CD player will be able to read them. Otherwise the most likely avenue will be a USB to RCA connection. I'm sure you know what that would do to the image quality...
Off hand, I'm not aware of any way to directly connect USB to HDVI. But I'll check it out. I expect I'll be in the same boat as others like your father (with whom I share like artistic interests), Hi-RES images, HD TV but no way to get them directly to the screen. There's gotta be something out there...
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Maxxwire
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-08 15:03
The-Ish316- The KDF E50A10 also has HDMI and 15 Pin RGB Digital inputs so maybe there is a possibility there.
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jehill
Sony Senior Advisor
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Posts: 13791
From: Sewell, NJ
| Posted: 2006-03-08 15:43
I thought that my son somehow copied picture files from his camera to a memory stick, but I was wrong. His Sony T1 camera came with a MS adapter that accepts the tiny MS Duo card from his camera. That makes it real simple! Maybe there is a similar adapter for your dads camera.
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Maxxwire
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From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-08 17:45
I'll have to see if there is such an adaptor for my Dad's Sony DSC F828.
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jttar
Sony Master
Joined: Feb 28, 2003
Posts: 9156
From: Chicago,IL, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-08 23:58
Maxx,
I purchased a Sony Memory Card and reader from Circuit City and am able to load any jpg's from my computer to the memory stick and play them as a slide show on my KDF55WF655 TV. I have some great slide shows of my Grand Daughters. Your Dad should be able to do the same with his pictures. I think he would get a kick out of being able to view his work on the "big screen".
Joe (aka BeastMaster)
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
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Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-09 03:12
Thanks BeastMaster, I'll let my Dad know about using a Sony Memory Card and Reader to display his pictures on his Grand Wega.
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The-Ish316
Sony Fanatic
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Posts: 328
From: Western PA
| Posted: 2006-03-09 08:57
I'm curious though whether the card reader has digital output to a digital input on the HDTV. What I've seen has USB out to analog in (on the TV). Or will the digital to analog not degrade the signal quality substantially?
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jehill
Sony Senior Advisor
Joined: Mar 13, 2003
Posts: 13791
From: Sewell, NJ
| Posted: 2006-03-09 12:28
Ok! Here is the straight skinny on the memory stick port included on the KF42/50/60WE610 and KFD60/70XBR950 (straight from the training manual):
The memory stick slot is connected to the DIC2 board via a LVDS link where it is converted to a component video signal and passed through the SUB VIDEO 3D COMB filter to the MID circuit. In other words, the signal is processed like any other component video input.
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jehill
Sony Senior Advisor
Joined: Mar 13, 2003
Posts: 13791
From: Sewell, NJ
| Posted: 2006-03-09 12:55
Maxx, I should have done a little research first (remember the cavemen in the ad). I have bad news. The KDF-E50A10 doesn't include a memory stick port!
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rb
Ultimate Sony Reviewer
Joined: Mar 04, 2003
Posts: 2035
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-09 14:29
The vast majority of Sony cameras include an A/V cable that can be hooked up directly to the front input on the TV set.
The camera will even output in PAL if your in parts of the world on vacation that use the PAL system.
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Maxxwire
Sony Adept
Joined: Aug 29, 2002
Posts: 25729
From: Portland, Oregon - USA
| Posted: 2006-03-09 15:24
On 2006-03-09 08:57, The-Ish316 wrote: What I've seen has USB out to analog in (on the TV). Or will the digital to analog not degrade the signal quality substantially?
The USB to Composite Video input limits the Resolution to 480i.
I was hoping that we could do better with the 3400 X 2400 Resolution that my Dad's Sony F-828 Digital camera has.
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