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Monster Power UPS 500 - worthwhile purchase?

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by BornAnew2001 » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:51 am

I only recently discovered this site, but I like what I see thus far.  

I'm all set to purchase a 42" Sony KDF-E42A10 projection LCD on Friday, and I've been picking up a few accessories beforehand.  I bought a Monster UPS 500 backup from Best Buy today based on what I've read about abrubtly shutting down the cooling fans in RPTV's.  Now that I've dug around a bit more on here, the opinion on UPS's seems to be mixed.  Is the Monster unit worth the $300 that I dropped on it?  The literature with the unit claims that it provides both power conditioning (Clean Power stage 1) and an Automatic Voltage Regulator to avoid harmful spikes or sags. 

If the consensus is that the UPS 500 is a worthwhile investment for the TV, I've another question.  Given that the unit only has two outlets on it, would it harm anything to have it plugged into a surge-protected power strip? 

Any help that you guys can provide would be much appreciated.

EDIT:  If the consensus is that the UPS 500 should be returned, would you recommend a power conditioner/surge protector in its place?





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by SNY4ME » Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:42 pm

I'm not too framiliar with that unit. But I believe that they do not recommend plugging in power bars or surge protectors into those at all. They say directly to the wall and then directly to the appliance, nothing inbetween.

Which makes sense, because when you are feeding two or more units off the same supply (outlet), they will then interfere with each other. Because these units are built with each output isolated from each other. So you don't get that interferance.

If you need more outputs, I recommend trading up to a better unit. Possibly you could do better for the same money with a different brand. Because, it seems that around here the general consensus is that Monster Cables products are very over priced.

Hope this helps.

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by SNY4ME » Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:50 pm

Ok I found this. I am really starting to love these guys. Consider this one, because I believe that Best Buy sells these too.

Pure AV - AP30800-10

Here it is http://catalog.belkin.com/PureAV_detail.process?Product_Id=195291

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by robvanhooren » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:39 pm

You're getting sucked into buying jewellery again.

A visit to www.apcc.com is highly recommended. You'll get twice the value for your money, and equal if not superior performance.

e.g. a 1kVA unit should be < $200

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by SNY4ME » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:02 pm

Well, uhh?? 1KVA unit is $1299.99?!?!?! The APC units are more expensive than the Monster ones. The Belkin unit is still better than both.

You must mean the standard computer back-ups. Well that's great if you don't want any power conditioning.

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by jehill » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:06 am

Whatever happened to BornAnew2001?
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by robvanhooren » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:51 pm

APC's 1.2kVA model BR1200 lists @ retail for USD$249.

Gives you 6/Batt. +2/SurgeOnly NEMA L5-15R

Can surge against 420 joules, has full-time multipole noise filtering at incredibly just 5% of IEEE let-through (UL1449) with an impressive zero clamping response time. Respectable ambient noise at 1m: 45dBA and cooling load at 180BTU/h. $150,000 connected equipment coverage is standard.

11.7min runtime @ 390W, 3.4min @ 780W


Conditioners only, you could also look at the H10 unit, 1kVA @ $299 provides 12-outlet, surge against nearly 5 thousand joules, integral 50dB EMI filter, and carries both UL1449 rating and $Half-Million connected eq't coverage.

If you want A/V specific unit with battery (e.g. H10 plus some runtime), the model S10 has specs as above however it surges to only 3060 joules, and it needs a 4ms (milli- not micro-) clamp time.

Although it runs for 10min at 700W, it can filter EMI at just 0.7% which bests the BR1200 by a factor of about 8.

At 3U, it's larger, but it's also "pretty" -- and carries "unlimited" connected eq't coverage.


Don't know where you got your $1300 price from?

/shrug/

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by SNY4ME » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:42 pm

Heres my source.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/APCS10S15batterybackup.php

I also found an S15 on AudioGon for $899.00. w/MSRP of $1499.00.

I retract my previous statement regarding "no power conditioning". I just find it hard to understand why APC would charge so much more for an almost identical peice of hardware.

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by BornAnew2001 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:32 am

Ha, sorry.  I continued this dicussion in the duplicate thread under TV Configuration.  I ended up returning the Monster UPS and instead went with the Belkin PureAV 30800-10.  The extra outlets in the Belkin are a necessity with my setup.  Regardless of whether or not the Monster is a quality product, retail price is for the birds; I ended up paying $280 shipped for the Belkin whereas Best Buy is still selling it for $599.
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by SNY4ME » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:42 pm

Cool where did you buy yours from? That is an awesome price.

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