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Direct DSD playback of multi-channel SACDs!

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by mykyll2727 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:06 pm

Scott_I'm in agreement with you and I know exactly what you mean about the 4 Ds. I find it ironic that modern speaker makers tout the sonic advancements that they've made due to their complex Xovers and such. Yet I feel they actually taken a step backward. I'm not touting Klipsch or even horns but one of the most exciting and enjoyable listening experiences I've had was listening to the Klipsch Paladiums driven with some fairly high powered amps. Very much like the experience you described. It really made me feel alive without the sound becoming fatiguing. The Revel Salons 2s are still what I consider the best sounding speaker I've heard for the most discriminating listener, but because of their inefficiency they just didn't want to make me come alive like the Klpischs. I found the B&Ws I've heard to be somewhat boring. Other people's tastes and experiences may run completely contrary to mine and of course I haven't heard the 800Ds or the seashell shaped Nautilus. They may be quite different. Yet and still I don't understand the major move to inefficient drivers. Vintage speakers may not have the hyper detail and laser sharp imaging of today's narrow baffles but for the most part I find them to provide a more moving and enjoyable experience.


Alot of digital sources do tend to sound bright. While it may well catch your attention in a store demo it can be very hard to live with at home. I think some of the speaker specialists realise that and therefore compensate. The combination overall leaves me wanting. Just my opinion._mykl

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by scott1019 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:28 pm

On modern equipment with modern recording techniques and over EQ'ed recordings, my speakers sound like police sirens, very beamy and harsh... midrange very exaggerated and highs very shrill sounding as well as WAYY too much bass.,

With a good quality recording taken directly from the original analog master regardless of what bit-rate is being sent to my DAC the result is something FAR beyond any vinyl recording and phono pre-amp has been able to achieve... and best of all no pops, hums, or crackling! Although some of the re-mastered CD's have this too since they are transferred from an LP.

The sound from these albums is velvety smooth, dynamic, realistic, and perfectly presented with absolutely no harshness or glare. Hunting down these recordings is the hard part... not all albums are mastered correctly and even recording techniques have gone backwards. I should refer you to my friend who is a recording engineer from back in the 60's. His name is Michael Peters and he's a legend in the Cleveland area.

I will certainly add his pearls of wisdom onto your thread why 20th Century sound sucks! Since 2001 audio has been taking a backseat to video and there is no end in sight.
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by jehill » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:16 am

My nephew has a pair of Classe A200's and I believe a non-Classe preamp that he has been using for years.  At one time he used them with a pair of B&W 801's.  They looked pretty, but he didn't keep them for more than a year.  They didn't have the sound that he was looking for.  I don't know what speakers he is using now, but I do know that he doesn't have a problem driving them.
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by scott1019 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:27 am

The Classe's have dynamic headroom to spare and ironically enough work the best on my efficient speakers. B & W's look amazing and for certain applications work well, but are flat out dead sounding and nothing I would recommend to anyone for home use.
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by mykyll2727 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:41 pm


On 2011-09-10 17:44, jehill wrote:
What's unique about the AVD-C70ES is that it is 100% digital.  The DSD outputs of the player are passed directly to the S-Master controlled digital amps.

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John_I meant to ask this in the beginning. Isn't that what Sony was doing with the SCD-XA9000ES/STR-DA9000ES combo connected by iLink?_mykl
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by jehill » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:59 am

Yes, but the difference is that the iLink conversions are eliminated from the stream in the AVD-C70ES because everything is in one box.
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