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CD transport

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by scott1019 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:33 am

Now that I have a remarkable DAC and may be looking to purchase a Sony TA-E80ES, I am looking for a CD transport with XLR outs.  I've come across some Sony ES players, but they are in the $500+ category.  Sony also makes some nice transports for the pro audio community and I have been focusing my efforts there.   Decks like the Sony CDP-D11/D12 and CDP-D500 have been selling in the sub $500 range in recent years.  The overall weight of the these decks is less than 10 pounds and it worries me a little.  Does anyone here have any experience with these players and if it may be a good alternative for me.  

Any player/transport with XLR outs is what I am looking for especially if I get that TA-E80ES.  Thanks guys.  
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by mhedges » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:59 pm

I wouldn't get too caught up in having XLR. The E80ES is not a truly balanced design (very few components are) and the signal path is more direct via RCA.

I would only look at XLR if you need it for its noise rejection properties.

Also a transport is going to be putting out a digital signal. If you really want XLR then you need your DAC to have it.

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by scott1019 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:04 pm

Hmm, I sent you a PM about your E80ES, still for sale? Think I will be content with my TA-E77ESD? I am quite pleased with its performance.

For what purpose would I need to go with XLR?
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by mhedges » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:09 pm

Scott -

Sorry the E80ES is sold. But keep an eye on ebay - one just sold for $305, which is a killer price.

The thing with your E77ESD is that it converts everything to digital, so you are going to lose some sound quality. How much is debatable.

I have always read that you should only go with XLR if you have runs of more than say 20 feet, unless you are having issues with noise.

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by scott1019 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:17 pm

Hmm, I am wondering if that's why I don't notice much of a difference when using my TA-E1000ESD for analog. The biggest difference I notice is with the Phono section, WAYY better on the E77ESD.

I was actively bidding on that one you mentioned. I went up to $300 and since I already had a pre I didn't want to get into a bidding war, plus I don't think that one had a remote. And with Ebay its always a gamble. Does this mean that the E77ES also converts everything to digital? I know its nearly impossible to find, but just wondering which pre's to look for.

In order to get the 80ES performing at its best will I have to spend $400 in mods or does it perform well enough in stock form? I certainly have a need for a great analog only pre-amp. Thanks so much for your advice!
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by David_S » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:08 pm


...The thing with your E77ESD is that it converts everything to digital, so you are going to lose some sound quality.  How much is debatable.

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You might have meant E1000ESD here.  The E77ESD does not convert analog inputs to digital.  Analog inputs are 100% analog through the E77ESD.

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by scott1019 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:16 pm

David, based on your experience would there be any need to seek out a 80ES or would I be better off saving my money and effort to mod the TA-E77ESD I have now?
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by David_S » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:05 pm


On 2011-07-26 23:16, scott1019 wrote:
David, based on your experience would there be any need to seek out a 80ES or would I be better off saving my money and effort to mod the TA-E77ESD I have now?

Specs for the E77ES & E80ES are almost identical.  I have never heard the E80ES & do not know how it sounds compared to the E77ES.

The wiring mods I posted had the most dramatic effect at almost zero cost.  The big power supply caps are expensive, mine were good so I kept the originals.  The other caps aren't that expensive.

The OFC RCA jacks were the most expensive mod.  I went all out & replaced all the audio RCA jacks in the E77ES.  You can save money by replacing only the jacks you use.  This might be a zero gain if you get the E80ES because you still might want to upgrade the RCA jacks in the E80ES.

Web photos of the E80ES show that it is probably easier to disassemble for modding.  You might want to get one for this reason.  The E77ES is not easy to work on.

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by mykyll2727 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:20 am

Scott_Do you have the skills to mod the unit yourself or would you have someone else do it? Man do I wish I had the skills and means like David to mod units myself.

 david_ you've done some great work. I truly envy it._mykl
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by scott1019 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:25 am

I have basic electrical and soldering skills, not the understanding to know what to replace and why. That's why I'm here!
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